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Worst Case Scenario is Sami Zayn winning KotR and winning the World Championship. Only thing that could save it is if Seth Rollins cashed in on Sami and won the Belt from him.

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Orton stop sucking off the crowd and I hope you're wrong about Zayne winning the belt.

Ha Cody didn't get to talk. Ha Ha nobody cared.

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I am glad Orton won. I do not mine either Orton vs Cody or Orton vs Jey in the KotR Finals.

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I hope Orton wins it all just because I'm done with the others.

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#14305  Edited By dernman

I liked that promo Cena did against Punk. Much better than he's been doing. I want to see more of that. Crowd seemed to like it too. Should have had more of that than some of his other promos

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I wonder how long Roman Reigns is going to be away now ? Is it all the way until Summerslam ? Might as well consider Dude retired now.

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I certainly consider him retired and honestly I don't care if he comes back. Time to move on.

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I just hate it ends essentially with Roman Reigns getting beat by Cody Rhodes at Wrestlemania. I would have liked to see Roman make one last run and get his revenge on Cody and take his Title back and rebuild the Bloodline with his new crew. Sheeit, he could have had Jey, Jimmy, Jacob as the New Bloodline and takeover the WWE again or even ran up against Seth and his new Crew with a Double Crossing Paul Heyman.

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He would have to be interested for that to happen. Seems like once the top guys get money they lose interest in actually wrestling. Whens the last time we've seen Drew? Just when he started getting interesting for the first time since being in WWE.

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Was Chad Gable on RAW last Monday ? I do not even remember seeing El Grande Americano.

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I don't think so

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#14312  Edited By arctika

So which wrestler has the most toxic fans ever you guys think?

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#14313  Edited By TDK_1997

What are all these rings that all of the wrestlers are wearing nowadays? Is it something like the Whoop bracelet?

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@arctika said:

So which wrestler has the most toxic fans ever you guys think?

Cody Cry babies were bad for awhile but as his star seems to be dimming so are his fans. Daniel Bryon fans were that way too at one point. Sasha Banks fans are not good. There are other who have really bad one some even more so than I listed but they're not coming off the top of my head at the moment.,

Really my top spot is saved for Punk fans who are unbearable. I've always thought Cult of Personality theme song was on the nose. His fanbase it a cult. No matter how horrible he is it's always someone else at fault and he always has to come out on top.

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#14315  Edited By Straight-Fire

Punk fans are the worst? Get out of here.

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That's why you have to avoid Wrestling Forums and Reddit to get away from the Toxic Fans. I do not know they exist because I never see them...

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Sometimes you need to go to wrestling forums if you want to talk wrestling sadly. Like any interest that you have and you're irl friends don't share.

You'll just have to ignore or deal some other way with all those toxic fans or not talk at all.

Though when it's the worst of the worst like Punk fans. Maybe not at all is better :p

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I have not been to Wrestling Forums in ages. They have a lot of activity which is good over there. I usually can ignore the crazy fans of certain wrestlers. Just have to remember Kids too be on these Computers talking that mess.

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@dernman: Oh ok then I see. Thanks for the breakdown, I was curious since I always hear people talk about Punk, Sasha, Hogan, Cena etc, etc over the years especially on youtube people get into these heated arguments.

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@arctika said:

So which wrestler has the most toxic fans ever you guys think?

I would say its pretty easily Benoit fans

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@arctika said:

So which wrestler has the most toxic fans ever you guys think?

I would say its pretty easily Benoit fans

Oh, Chris Benoit? Haven't heard that name in a while.

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@arctika said:

@dernman: Oh ok then I see. Thanks for the breakdown, I was curious since I always hear people talk about Punk, Sasha, Hogan, Cena etc, etc over the years especially on youtube people get into these heated arguments.

Hogan fans are pretty quiet from my experience because of the controversy with the things he said.

@arctika said:

So which wrestler has the most toxic fans ever you guys think?

I would say its pretty easily Benoit fans

I honestly don't see benoit fans anymore. If they're it's almost apologetic and distance themselves from the irl man.

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#14324  Edited By somayareece

The fact they showed this during a commercial break. They don't give a shit about this Iyo reign at all lmao. They may as well go ahead and put the belt back on Rhea.

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You only discovering that out now? Truth be told I honestly don't care about it. It's hard to get into a wrestler who can't speak the language. She worked much better as a heel and when she could get away with talking only a little. She was interesting then and I was a fan.

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You only discovering that out now? Truth be told I honestly don't care about it. It's hard to get into a wrestler who can't speak the language. She worked much better as a heel and when she could get away with talking only a little. She was interesting then and I was a fan.

+1 on this. It is somewhat distracting to listen to someone who struggles speaking in English.

Same goes for Stephanie Vaquer, Shinsuke Nakamura and hell, even Finn is sometimes cringy to listen to with that heavy ass accent, but him, I don't mind that much.

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I think the Finn comment also applied to Becky to at some point but she became easier to understand over time and catapult herself in to one of the best mic workers if not the best among the women. It is definitely obvious that this Iyo reign is being booked around the fact she struggles with English which is why I was against Rhea vs Iyo at Wrestlemania from the start.

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Some of the Best Mic Work in the History of the WWE.

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Sarcasm strait from Saturn.

It weirds me out to here Giulia talk with a Japanese accent every time. I keep forgetting she's part Japanese.

To a lesser degree Vaquer

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#14330  Edited By King_Saturn

I think Night of Champions is this weekend. I am rooting for Orton to get the win over Cody but it looks like all roads lead back to Cody vs Cena 2 at Summerslam and the title going back to Rhodes. Maybe the full dream can be seen though with Rollins cashing in on Cody afterwards and then Rollins becoming WWE Champion. Seth has been very average though lately.

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That Kevin Owens Interview on Cody Rhodes Podcast was Pretty Good. Not a Huge KO Fan but he can make a Solid Heel and he was easily The Best Heel they had for Cody once he won the WWE Championship.

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Cody Rhoads said he his time as a baby face is coming winding down. That the Rock wanted him to turn heel already. I can sense it truthfully. There have been signs. Maybe it's Rhoads that turns on Orton and not the other way around. If he loses to Orton he could betray him when he faces Cena. Saying he did it as payback for getting in his way and taking the KotR opportunity.

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Honestly if Cena's time remaining is being a heel like he was with Punk I wouldn't mind him retiring with the belt and go out undefeated. They can always create a new belt.

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I am curious about a Heel Cody Rhodes. I just wonder who the WWE has as a Face to challenge him or even has as a Face to be legit Champion ? They do not seem to like LA Knight much. Jey Uso gets beat Left and Right. Who else ? Sami Zayn ?

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#14334  Edited By dernman

Zayne isn't on Cody's level. I might be Ortan for awhile. Reigns for a rematch but that never lasts long. LA Knight like you said. Owen to reignite their feud with him telling everyone see I told you Cody was bad.......Priest? eh I feel like they've forgotten about him. Fatu? Punk if he's still a face of obviously.

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I can't stand Sami Zayn. If they have Sami go at Cody I would rather Cody squash him and deal with either a Face Orton or a returning Face Roman Reigns which could be Interesting too.

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#14336  Edited By dernman

I don't like Zayne either. I think WWE like him because to some he's funny and he works alot.

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I'm hearing Alistair Black is going to get a push

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Night Of Champions needs a Major Curveball. Do you go Cody Rhodes turning Heel at Night of Champions ? I feel like Gunther vs Goldberg is going to be Horrible.

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I'm probably skipping Oldberg match. I don't know if it will happen there. THey might consider it too soon. Honestly it's hard to imagine Orton wins so maybe Cody cheats to win for his heel turn?

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#14340  Edited By King_Saturn

I think Goldberg vs Gunther happens on Saturday Night Main Event sometime in July ? Even so, who is really looking forward to this ?

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It might be time for Gunther to go to the mid to low card

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Maybe so, Mr. Doggy. Gunther is pretty much what he is on the Mic. Character can not really translate over to anything elite for a Heel.

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He did have some good old school matches. Problem is there are very few guys like that now.

I wonder if they'll ever allow Sheamus to with the inter title that he's always wanted. I know his upcoming match with Rusev he's going to lose.

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It feels like on the Women's side all roads lead to Jade Cargill winning QotR and then probably taking out Tiffany which leads to Jade vs Bianca with Naomi lurking with the MITB Briefcase.

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#14345  Edited By dernman

I wish we had more Tiffany wrestling. WWE has so many females they might be more than the men. At least ones that are not a waste of space. Maybe WWE needs to cut some fat.

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WWE is wasting Tiffany's Championship run. She hardly gets any Time on TV and she's the Champ !

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#14347  Edited By dernman

Seems like thats the thing now. If you're the champ or a top person you barely have to wrestle.

I wonder how long gable will be out with injury

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Lately it seems that Triple H and the creative team behind the shows give the fans what they want and then sideline the winners for quite a while, they lost their momentum and all of a suddent their reigns feel like bs.

Either do not give the fans what they want or just continue on the push of these wrestlers. Not that I want more female wrestling tbh, but both champions are currently nowhere to be seen. All of a suddent the Women's IC title feels more important and tbh it's probably because Becky is involved. God, I can't stand Becky Lynch... lol

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I like female wrestling and to be honest most of them feel like they're hungrier and are trying harder it. My issue is they seem to be putting much more effort into recruiting and finding top talent for the womans division and not the mens. It doesn't need to grow any more. Start developing the make division's future. Most of the top men are in their later years. Few up and comers. .