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Poll Is Trump doing his best? (53 votes)

God no we're all suffering for 4 years 66%
Yes he's doing great 17%
idrc/not in the us 17%
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#51  Edited By mykindofwoman
@abstractrapeal said:

I must thank Trump. Europe, led by Germany’s economic strength, is now on a path toward greater independence. While Germany may not match the USA in purchasing power, its robust industry, combined with the EU’s financial backing, especially through Germany alongside France, positions it well to fill the vacuum left by the United States within NATO. With this foundation, Europe can move forward smoothly and assert its role on the global stage.

I'm not surprised by your response. Explain why Trump is so mighty and well.

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@abstractrapeal said:

I must thank Trump. Europe, led by Germany’s economic strength, is now on a path toward greater independence. While Germany may not match the USA in purchasing power, its robust industry, combined with the EU’s financial backing, especially through Germany alongside France, positions it well to fill the vacuum left by the United States within NATO. With this foundation, Europe can move forward smoothly and assert its role on the global stage.

I'm not surprised by your response. Explain why Trump is so mighty and well.

Trump, along with the MAGA faction, is systematically dismantling the current world order and effectively undermining globalism. In fact, he is exercising remarkable restraint, as a more aggressive approach could have been taken. If I were in his position, I might have already deployed warships into the Atlantic, not necessarily near Greenland, but strategically placed to escalate tensions and accelerate Europe's path toward full self-sufficiency.

At the core of this geopolitical maneuvering, the true adversary is not solely China and its expansive Belt and Road Initiative but also the entrenched globalist elites within the American, European and Asian financial sectors. By pursuing this strategy, Trump is not only countering China's ambitions but also shifting Western public opinion against the very globalist enterprises and institutional frameworks that have long dictated economic and political affairs.

Trump is actually being too nice, which I do not really understand why, 4 years isn't that much time.

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@mykindofwoman said:
@abstractrapeal said:

I must thank Trump. Europe, led by Germany’s economic strength, is now on a path toward greater independence. While Germany may not match the USA in purchasing power, its robust industry, combined with the EU’s financial backing, especially through Germany alongside France, positions it well to fill the vacuum left by the United States within NATO. With this foundation, Europe can move forward smoothly and assert its role on the global stage.

I'm not surprised by your response. Explain why Trump is so mighty and well.

Trump, along with the MAGA faction, is systematically dismantling the current world order and effectively undermining globalism. In fact, he is exercising remarkable restraint, as a more aggressive approach could have been taken. If I were in his position, I might have already deployed warships into the Atlantic, not necessarily near Greenland, but strategically placed to escalate tensions and accelerate Europe's path toward full self-sufficiency.

The MAGA faction is a group of white people attacking and terrorizing anyone who opposes their views they're not doing shit to Europe. So you believe that by pushing Europe to become more stable, mainly in part of Germany's economy, is the best route to help them? So you would've threatened a country to become sufficient. lol.

At the core of this geopolitical maneuvering, the true adversary is not solely China and its expansive Belt and Road Initiative but also the entrenched globalist elites within the American, European and Asian financial sectors. By pursuing this strategy, Trump is not only countering China's ambitions but also shifting Western public opinion against the very globalist enterprises and institutional frameworks that have long dictated economic and political affairs.

So what I'm taking from this is Trump wants America=China?

Trump is actually being too nice, which I do not really understand why, 4 years isn't that much time.

Oh since he's so generous, can you tell us why he has 34 felonies that he's guilty of?

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Are we seriously taking his invasion threats and attempts at extorting minerals and rare resources out of Ukraine as pushing Europe toward arming and self suffeciency?

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#55  Edited By AbstractRApeal
@maulsmacker said:

Are we seriously taking his invasion threats and attempts at extorting minerals and rare resources out of Ukraine as pushing Europe toward arming and self suffeciency?

Someone has to do it right? It certainly won’t be China. Beijing operates in the shadows, leveraging globalist structures to advance its Belt and Road Initiative, ensuring its economic and geopolitical expansion remains largely unchecked. However, the tides are shifting.

Japan is rapidly rearming, South Korea is following suit, and now Germany is poised for an unprecedented military resurgence. Friedrich Merz, the anticipated next German Chancellor, has announced an additional €700 billion in military funding on top of the €100 billion previously pledged by Olaf Scholz, bringing Germany’s total defense investment to an astounding €800 billion. Combined with the 2% GDP NATO commitment of around 90 billion, this will surpass even the United States' 2023 military budget of $886 billion.

What we are witnessing is a masterful geopolitical maneuver. Trump and the MAGA faction are not just restructuring American priorities, they are methodically dismantling globalism across the world and compelling key Western powers toward self-sufficiency and military empowerment. This strategic recalibration is effectively burying globalist institutions, ensuring that regional powers reclaim their sovereignty while simultaneously curbing China’s unchecked ambitions that benefit from globalism.

The tariffs and provocations are working well so far, however, if I were in Trump's place I would go a little bit further as the MAGA faction achieved a trifecta victory, they won the House, the Senate, and the presidency.

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@maulsmacker said:

Are we seriously taking his invasion threats and attempts at extorting minerals and rare resources out of Ukraine as pushing Europe toward arming and self suffeciency?

Someone has to do it right? It certainly won’t be China. Beijing operates in the shadows, leveraging globalist structures to advance its Belt and Road Initiative, ensuring its economic and geopolitical expansion remains largely unchecked. However, the tides are shifting.

Japan is rapidly rearming, South Korea is following suit, and now Germany is poised for an unprecedented military resurgence. Friedrich Merz, the anticipated next German Chancellor, has announced an additional €700 billion in military funding on top of the €100 billion previously pledged by Olaf Scholz, bringing Germany’s total defense investment to an astounding €800 billion. Combined with the 2% GDP NATO commitment of around 90 billion, this will surpass even the United States' 2023 military budget of $886 billion.

What we are witnessing is a masterful geopolitical maneuver. Trump and the MAGA faction are not just restructuring American priorities, they are methodically dismantling globalism across the world and compelling key Western powers toward self-sufficiency and military empowerment. This strategic recalibration is effectively burying globalist institutions, ensuring that regional powers reclaim their sovereignty while simultaneously curbing China’s unchecked ambitions that benefit from globalism.

The tariffs and provocations are working well so far, however, if I were in Trump's place I would go a little bit further as the MAGA faction achieved a trifecta victory, they won the House, the Senate, and the presidency.

What we're actually witnessing is an attempt from the Trump adminstration to gain free minerals/resources from Ukraine while using Tariffs to fatten their own pockets while the normal person suffers further and the diplomatic relatons between America and it's allies dwindle and suffer.

for example, there is no masterful geopolitical manoeuvring going on with the whole greenland crap, no armed invasion of Greenland is ever going to materalise, what is going on is Trump is using Greenland as an scapegoat to make sure that the American people are thinking about idiotic stuff like fictional invasions and random 51st state crap while he does nothing about all the internal problems he promised to solve...which, spoiler alert, he is not going to solve.

A massive rearming of Europe is also not even under America's best interests, infact, what the cutting off from Europe has done is leave a power vaccum and pushed Europe from America's sphere of influence to China's spjere of influence, which I guarantee china will be very happy to use, same thing with the Indo Pacific allies that might as well also declare neutrality between the United States and China and so forth.

What the real intention was? It was to practically colonize half of a Sovereign European nation while also lifting all western sanctions on Russia so that an isolationist nation neutral to European affairs can emerge and lead to relations with Russia and Europe simultaneously, he expected Europe to bend the knee, not only did that not happen but accidentally he caused massive militarization of Europe sending us right back to the world wars era.

All in all, you're merely hoping your favourite regime has some anime-esque plan behind their invasion threat and extortion attempts rather than the truth that is in front of us, they're an isolationist regime that wants to dismantle decade old relations for a quick buck (Ukraine/EU) or just as a distraction for it's people (Greenland crap).

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#57  Edited By WarDaddy7

I can't even begin to list all the disastrous actions that Trump has undertaken to Make America Embarrassing Again...and we're only two months into this four year nightmare that I never voted for, yet here we are living in Trump's America 2.0

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He's doing his best in terms of what he's been saying/preaching to his voter base, and the part of it thats not so "sensible" to say the least.

However, for the country he's been absolutely atrocious. Our foreign relations are worse. Our standing as the world leader worse. Our economy is worse. Our rights are compromised. Our population more divided then ever in the last few decades.

That does not mean he cant also do a few good things, but overall obviously he's been horrible. I mean for fucks sake, he's even made the crypto community jaded, these are the guys that would fomo their life savings into a ponzi scheme written in crayon.

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#59  Edited By Eredin12

Trump is trying to end the independence of Fed, SEC and other such agencies, which, if he succeeds, will tank confidence in US markets and the financial system, and in doing so he is aided by partisan judges he appointed in first term like Justin Walker who ignore Supreme Court precedent to aid Trump:

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/28/appeals-court-ruling-trump-independent-federal-agencies-00258300

then he is is flip-flopping with massive tariffs, starting trade wars left and right, tanking consumer sentiment, creating two tier of justice where his donors are protected of crimes they commit:

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-03-29/los-angeles-federal-prosecutor-fired

etc. At this point we might be heading for global depression by time he is done.

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#60  Edited By AbstractRApeal
@maulsmacker said:

What we're actually witnessing is an attempt from the Trump adminstration to gain free minerals/resources from Ukraine while using Tariffs to fatten their own pockets while the normal person suffers further and the diplomatic relatons between America and it's allies dwindle and suffer.

Nothing in this world comes for free. Ukraine will have to pay back, one way or another. American taxpayers have been financing the massive flow of armaments into Ukraine, and something will have to come back in return.

After the Second World War, was the Marshall Plan truly free? Not at all. Let me show you why.

The Marshall Plan (officially the European Recovery Program) involved the U.S. giving about $13 billion (around $150 billion in today's money according to inflation rates over the years) to help rebuild Europe after World War 2.

However, the U.S. economy benefited massively:

  • European countries bought American goods (machinery, vehicles, grain, etc.) with that aid money.
  • It stabilized Europe politically and economically, creating strong trading partners for the U.S.
  • American companies exported more to Europe in the years that followed.
  • It helped contain communism, preserving open markets for capitalism.

In financial and strategic terms, the U.S. made back much more than the $13 billion indirectly through decades of increased trade, political influence, and military alliances.

So while it wasn't like a loan that got repaid with interest, the return on investment was huge for the U.S.

  • The UK got the most aid ($3.3 billion).
  • France second ($2.3 billion).
  • Italy third ($1.5 billion).
  • West Germany fourth ($1.4 billion).

Fun twist: even with "less" money compared to Britain or France, West Germany's economy grew way faster thanks to smart reforms (like Ludwig Erhard's free-market policies). That's why people talk about the "Wirtschaftswunder", the German Economic Miracle. The reason why Germany is the strongest economic powerhouse of Europe today.

for example, there is no masterful geopolitical manoeuvring going on with the whole greenland crap, no armed invasion of Greenland is ever going to materalise, what is going on is Trump is using Greenland as an scapegoat to make sure that the American people are thinking about idiotic stuff like fictional invasions and random 51st state crap while he does nothing about all the internal problems he promised to solve...which, spoiler alert, he is not going to solve.

I think it’s pure brilliance. What Trump is doing is instigating panic and doubt in Europe, both in terms of sovereignty and economics, even within EU member states like Denmark. This pressure helps retract economies back into regional financial structures, pushing Europe away from globalism. In turn, this weakens China’s Belt and Road economic project, which heavily relies on the survival of globalist frameworks.

The tariffs are also a brilliant move. By imposing tariffs that mainly target Chinese products while favoring alternative markets, Trump is provoking a massive flood of cheap Chinese exports into Europe. As a result, regional European products will struggle to compete, causing deeper economic strain across the continent. This will ultimately push Europe to prioritize regional self-sufficiency at a much faster pace.

This is what I said in the "POLITICS THREAD" topic before:

@abstractrapeal said:

"You’re right that tariffs can cause short-term pain, especially for American consumers and businesses that rely on imported goods. Higher prices on everyday items could lead to frustration, and if not managed properly, this strategy could backfire politically. However, the bigger picture here is that the U.S. is playing a long-term geopolitical and economic game, where temporary discomfort is the price of achieving a greater strategic advantage.

The goal isn’t just to make things more expensive, it’s to force supply chains to shift back to the U.S. or allied nations, reducing dependence on adversarial powers like China. If manufacturing returns home, the U.S. will regain lost industrial strength, create more jobs, and ultimately stabilize prices in the long run. The key challenge is managing the transition period without causing too much domestic suffering.

As for Trump, he has always played a high-risk, high-reward game. His supporters expect immediate relief from inflation, but his team is likely betting that controlled economic pressure on China will eventually pay off by forcing them into economic distress, making them less competitive and limiting their ability to manipulate global trade.

That said, public patience will be a major factor. If prices rise too sharply and too fast, political backlash could force an adjustment in strategy."

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A massive rearming of Europe is also not even under America's best interests, infact, what the cutting off from Europe has done is leave a power vaccum and pushed Europe from America's sphere of influence to China's spjere of influence, which I guarantee china will be very happy to use, same thing with the Indo Pacific allies that might as well also declare neutrality between the United States and China and so forth.

If you examine the state of the United States today, particularly in terms of infrastructure, it is clear that the situation is a massive mess. For decades, the American government has prioritized massive investments in military and defense sectors while neglecting its own domestic stability and critical infrastructure.

Europe, for its part, fully recognizes that China operates under a totalitarian regime. European leaders harbor deep-seated mistrust toward China and remain acutely aware that any economic engagement carries significant political risks. Despite economic temptations, Europe is not naive about the nature of the Chinese state, and its strategic decisions increasingly reflect this awareness."

What the real intention was? It was to practically colonize half of a Sovereign European nation while also lifting all western sanctions on Russia so that an isolationist nation neutral to European affairs can emerge and lead to relations with Russia and Europe simultaneously, he expected Europe to bend the knee, not only did that not happen but accidentally he caused massive militarization of Europe sending us right back to the world wars era.

All in all, you're merely hoping your favourite regime has some anime-esque plan behind their invasion threat and extortion attempts rather than the truth that is in front of us, they're an isolationist regime that wants to dismantle decade old relations for a quick buck (Ukraine/EU) or just as a distraction for it's people (Greenland crap).

Europe is no longer the Europe of the past. Today, both EU and non-EU countries are bound together by deeply entrenched economic ties. This interconnectedness is, in many ways, a legacy of the United States' influence through the Marshall Plan. While the U.S. initially established a strong economic hold over individual European markets, European nations quickly learned to replicate and expand their own networks among themselves, and far beyond.

Germany, in particular, stands out. German investments are now spread widely across the continent and beyond Europe, followed by France and others. Yet despite Germany having received less aid from the Marshall Plan compared to its counterparts, Germany has emerged as the clear economic winner of postwar Europe. In the long run, it wasn't the amount of aid that determined success, it was how strategically that aid was used.

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Therefore, Germany is not seen as a threat anymore, because all of Europe benefits from Germany, followed by France and others when going down the rankings and therefore we have this today:

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The target is simple, Globalism and the Globalist Elite have to be eradicated, they are the biggest threat, even more than China, and I'm not American, I'm German and an active member of the conservative AFD political party.

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He is surely trying his best to do the worst.

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#62  Edited By AbstractRApeal

@maulsmacker:

Another thing before I forget, this is the commitment aid for Ukraine:

RankCountryTotal Aid (USD)
1United States$128 billion
2Germany$55.7 billion
3France$32 billion
4United Kingdom$25.4 billion
5Italy$19.4 billion
6Netherlands$17.6 billion
7Japan$16.7 billion
8Sweden$15 billion
9Norway$14.1 billion
10Spain$13.7 billion
RankCountry/ Regional CoalitionTotal Aid (USD)
1European Union$132 billion
2United States$128 billion

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I'll be honest with you, I want our damn money back too, okay? If Ukraine has to be split up and shared like slices of cake to get as many resources out of there as needed until their debt is fully paid, then I'm all for it.

Once the war is over. "let it happen".

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No. He's objectively been a terrible president. Even if you measure how successful he is in the things he does, it's only mildly impressive.