Do feats from deleted scenes count?

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Poll Do feats from deleted scenes count? (86 votes)

Yes 38%
No 62%
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My opinion on this keeps flip flopping and right now I’d say no. If they’re deleted then they’re not a part of the film or official canon, director’s intent means nothing to me if they’re not included in the final cut.

Concept art is even less relevant.

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I think that depends on whether or not said deleted scene alters the canon in any way. If it does, I wouldn't use it.

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If the scenes are never used, then no. But if they get added back into the film as part of an extended cut, then I would count them.

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Depends why the scene was deleted.

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No, their called deleted scenes for a reason..

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No, their called deleted scenes for a reason..

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Probably only if the deleted scenes are confirmed to be canon.

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Don't see why it shouldn't, unless it contradicts the story.

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#60  Edited By death4bunnies  Moderator
@death4bunnies said:

Depends......TBH

Like Far From Home had some deleted scene.....but then they were made cannon by being called a short movie on the FFH DVD....A short movie called Peters to do list..

Thats is one case where a deleted scene made its way into primary Cannon.

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Same thing happened with 'Incredible Hulk" a deleted scene was shown on the DVD as a 'extended ending'... thus primary cannon.

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I also think Ultimate BVS is primary cannon.

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Now when it comes to Vision phasing Corvis Glaves heart out I dont consider that primary cannon, but It can speak to intent. (Vision has shown phasing, has phase killed robots, everyone on the vine kinda thought his powers could be used to phase hearts already), id consider that confirmation....Like hes done it in cannon, and this is just a better explanation of his powers.

I dont consider that scene cannon but it speak to intent.

Still this^^ but now the FFH deleted scenes are even more canon as they were shown in theaters during the rerelease.

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It’s case by case for sure, but I would say no for 99.9% of cases. If it didn’t make the final cut, there was a reason.

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#62  Edited By death4bunnies  Moderator
@superbatwars said:

It’s case by case for sure, but I would say no for 99.9% of cases. If it didn’t make the final cut, there was a reason.

How about “Pete’s to do list”?.

Was originally deleted scenes..

then released as a short film with DVD.

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Then was rereleased in theaters with those scenes

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why would feats not in the actual story count, they were deleted ie not wanted to be in the product by the people who made it

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#64  Edited By darkphantom9895
@joesmithy226 said:

why would feats not in the actual story count, they were deleted ie not wanted to be in the product by the people who made it

Depends on the verse mcu for example concept art and all that stuff that never made it on screen is explicitly stated to be canon continuity errors are even canon things that happen and stated when ever they do the timeline is pruned

also things get deleted not just because the didn’t want them there’s also things like time constraints and other behind the scenes reasons so it can be used for intent for characters

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@joesmithy226 said:

why would feats not in the actual story count, they were deleted ie not wanted to be in the product by the people who made it

Depends on the verse mcu for example concept art and all that stuff that never made it on screen is explicitly stated to be canon continuity errors are even canon things that happen

also things get deleted not just because the didn’t want them there’s also things like time constraints and other behind the scenes so it can be used for intent for characters

only times where deleted scenes would count, Is if they are canonized after the fact such like avengers movie which referenced Bruce trying to put a bullet in his jaw but hulk spit it out.

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otherwise deleted scenes don't count, aliens being born by being wrapped in a cocoon is a deleted scene, and it contradicts the mainline movies so it was never re added

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#66  Edited By darkphantom9895

@joesmithy226:

only times where deleted scenes would count, Is if they are canonized after the fact such like avengers movie which referenced Bruce trying to put a bullet in his jaw but hulk spit it out.

We did see that scene it’s right here

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again concept art is explicitly stated to be canon all of it so stuff that doesn’t make it on screen is still canon for mcu so like I said it depends on the verse

otherwise deleted scenes don't count, aliens being born by being wrapped in a cocoon is a deleted scene, and it contradicts the mainline movies so it was never re added

And? that’s aliens deleted stuff isn’t always deleted because they didn’t want it there’s lots of behind the scenes stuff and They cut things because time constraints etc so it all depends on what verse it is

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Depends on the reason why they're deleted.

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#68  Edited By TonyStark6999

I mean, it's always case by case. I tent to take them into account unless they directly contradict canon though, since they provide evidence of the director's intent.

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#69  Edited By cosmic_reign

Depends...

... Deleted scenes can be considered Alt U

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#70  Edited By takenstew22  Online

If the scenes are brought back and put in a future release of a film, then sure. And I mean in the actual film, not bonus features.

If not, then no because they're essentially not canon.

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#71  Edited By LucasCosta

Yes.

People still consider Empty Void space cutting feat as valid.

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#72  Edited By KevinforGod

No

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Not really, no. There's a reason it's called a deleted scene.

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#74  Edited By TheDukeofWei

Nope, as they are not within the finished official version of a work, which is the only relevant content for using feat. You can only use the feat if you argue maybe composite, but you can use it for sure if for example a Director´s Cut exist who add this scene back.

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#75  Edited By thenamelessone  Moderator

It's always case by case but if it's deliberately deleted with no impact from the outside, then I'd say No, it's not in the actual product and was removed for a reason.

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#76  Edited By death4bunnies  Moderator

@superbatwars said:

It’s case by case for sure, but I would say no for 99.9% of cases. If it didn’t make the final cut, there was a reason.

How about “Pete’s to do list”?.

Was originally deleted scenes..

then released as a short film with DVD.

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Then was rereleased in theaters with those scenes

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Ahhhh SM2.1 is going to theaters too,

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Awesome.. that gives us back the train smash.

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um no there's a reason it's not in the movie

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#78  Edited By Superbatwars

@superbatwars said:

It’s case by case for sure, but I would say no for 99.9% of cases. If it didn’t make the final cut, there was a reason.

How about “Pete’s to do list”?.

Was originally deleted scenes..

then released as a short film with DVD.

No Caption Provided

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Then was rereleased in theaters with those scenes

No Caption Provided

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I don’t really feel like this is something I would dispute. The fact that it’s part of the extended edition and went through post production goes a long way.

Unless the material is widely inconsistent feat-wise, then I don’t see a problem with it at all.

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#79 death4bunnies  Moderator

@death4bunnies said:
@superbatwars said:

It’s case by case for sure, but I would say no for 99.9% of cases. If it didn’t make the final cut, there was a reason.

How about “Pete’s to do list”?.

Was originally deleted scenes..

then released as a short film with DVD.

No Caption Provided

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Then was rereleased in theaters with those scenes

No Caption Provided

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I don’t really feel like this is something I would dispute. The fact that it’s part of the extended edition and went through post production goes a long way.

Unless the material is widely inconsistent feat-wise, then I don’t see a problem with it at all.

Mostly web gadgets and fodder busting.. bullet timing feat too.