Is DCU Superman already stronger than Cavill's Superman?

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Poll Is DCU Superman already stronger than Cavill's Superman? (50 votes)

Yes 78%
No 22%

Based on feats from TV spots, is he physically stronger?

We are already getting some feats from the TV spots, which honestly seem better than Cavill in terms of lifting so far

Stops a skyscreaper sized kauji from stomping

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Another cool feat is him one-hand swinging a water tower at the kaiju like it was nothing

Even tho it probably doesn’t beat out Cavill in feats the vibes are there

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Already a better character fasho

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#4  Edited By BrawlMetaKnight

He does appear to be stronger. We'll see and know even more when the movie releases.

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Yeah that newspaper clipping sells it for me. Completely different (better) vibes than DCEU

Also, I notice the date is June 2025 there. Gunn said that Clark is 25 in this film. So Superman born in 1999/2000... first Gen Z Superman I think

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@frozen: Bro rocking the new iPhones too

Was obviously expected given the year but still funny to see for a Superman/Clark

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He does appear to be stronger. We'll see and know even more when the movie releases.

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No. That still Aquaman level feat.

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That’s a better quantifiable pure strength feat than anything DCEU Superman has. If he’s holding up both skyscrapers you’re looking at over half a million tons on the lowest end.

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#10  Edited By RJR

That’s a better quantifiable pure strength feat than anything DCEU Superman has. If he’s holding up both skyscrapers you’re looking at over half a million tons on the lowest end.

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#11  Edited By RJR

High end feats, DCEU superman tectonic plate feat trumps this, consistent feats however place him as being able to lift an entire apartment building complex. So I'll go with current superman.

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#12  Edited By KevinforGod

He's Much Stronger Than DCEU Superman.

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@rjr: That's Pathetic Take. DCEU Superman Never Did Tectonic Shit And Apartment Building Is Far Far Below DCU Superman's Skyscrapers Feat.

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#14  Edited By RJR
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@rjr: That's Pathetic Take. DCEU Superman Never Did Tectonic Shit And Apartment Building Is Far Far Below DCU Superman's Skyscrapers Feat.

Really? I beg to differ as it's a statement from a newspaper article and since you all like going by character statements, according to the bruce, he's stronger than a planet. But hey, everyone on Comicvine likes taking statements at face value, so I'm just going by your alls example.

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#15  Edited By Greysentinel365  Online

This is so much better than what DCEU has done straight up.

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#16  Edited By BrawlMetaKnight

@rjr: Yeah. Now that we see the feat almost in full, I would count that as a success of him taking the weight of the building(s). He didn't really struggle with it.

I think it only continued falling after because it collapsed in on itself (and was beyond saving) so Superman just let it fall and crumble away on the bridge.

Besides, where is he even gonna put it anyway?

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#18  Edited By RJR

Careful Raj, Tar-El is back in town you wouldn't want him to start spamming up us his vile signature posts 😰

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#19  Edited By returnkaboom232

@rjr said:
@kevinforgod said:

@rjr: That's Pathetic Take. DCEU Superman Never Did Tectonic Shit And Apartment Building Is Far Far Below DCU Superman's Skyscrapers Feat.

Really? I beg to differ as it's a statement from a newspaper article and since you all like going by character statements, according to the bruce, he's stronger than a planet. But hey, everyone on Comicvine likes taking statements at face value, so I'm just going by your alls example.

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Lex already stated DCU Supes is the strongest being on the planet so scales above planet-busting BB or no

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There are a BUNCH of feats coming, just from this mini-trailer alone. Black hole, city-splitting, super-speed, HV spam and bunch others etc

Movie looks amazing I’m really liking how action scenes are being shot

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It looks like a comicbook come to life, with shades of Reeve in there too. Also hyped to see Lex too... Hoult said he was inspired a lot by Smallville's Lex. I've been a fan of Hoult since Skins

Where was the black hole part? I missed it but if so that would be OP. Looks like he's probably going to beat DCEU Superman in every category. Strength, striking, durability, heat vision etc

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He seems stronger than Cavill by a decent amount, his visuals fighting wise will be worse though.

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@brawlmetaknight: It falls on the bridge, I think he was holding the building so the lady could escape without it falling on her

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The biggest difference is him being able to hurt his enemies with punches, Cavill never did that.

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@frozen:

Where was the black hole part?

You can’t see all of it, but you can spot the accretion disk and matter being sucked into it. It’s when Superman was talking to Mister Terrific at 1:44

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@frozen:

Hoult said he was inspired a lot by Smallville's Lex.

Also very excited about this. Rosenbaum seemed to be very in with Gunn and the rest of them from what I’ve seen (podcast + bunch of interactions on social media) so maybe he gave Hoult some pointers. Dude’s easily the best LA Lex thus far - let’s see how Hoult does.

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@joker567892: Yeah, I know it falls on the bridge. I was kinda expecting people to say that it falling on the bridge means "Superman failed to lift it" or "it was too heavy for him" or "he's not that strong."

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Raw on screen feats, yeah. Scaling and statement, definitely not. We deserved a tectonic plate on screen feat.

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#29 death4bunnies  Moderator

Son of a Gunn those are sone good feats.

Looks mightier than Cavilman

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#30  Edited By DeusExMachlna

I Hope this Superman has at least some town-city level feats in striking strength

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Man I’m hyped!

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I hope he can oneshot MCU Thor, Carol and Thanos, to silent MCU Fans/DC haters

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#33  Edited By KevinforGod

@clusterfvck: Nah I Don't Think He Will Be Stronger Than Thor's Ring And Star Feats Or Carol's Star's Feat.

Though He's Far Stronger Than DCEU Superman Who Haven't Hurt Any Of His Enemies Unlike DCU Superman Who's Cracking Enemies Teeth. Also Holding Skyscraper That Dwarves Anything Anyone Has Done In DCEU.

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@rjr: Statements Without Onscreen Feats Are Trash And Non Canon. DCEU Superman Was Koed By Impact Of Oil Rig While DCU Superman Is Still Standing As Skyscraper Drop On Him Which He Held Too.

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#35  Edited By RJR
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@rjr: Statements Without Onscreen Feats Are Trash And Non Canon. DCEU Superman Was Koed By Impact Of Oil Rig While DCU Superman Is Still Standing As Skyscraper Drop On Him Which He Held Too.

Why because you said so, it's also statements that was reported by a newspaper (which shows the directors intent since he placed it in the movie, your alls logic) which makes it an in universe event that happened and therefore canon whether you like it or not and based on Comicvine logic it doesn't need to be shown on screen since according to you all statements are now valid. But again hey, you all are the ones who kept saying sentry has the power of a million suns and is more powerful than all the avengers combined into one, based on statements that was never shown on screen, so that immediately makes Bruce statements about Clark being stronger than a planet, because you know statements are now fair game to you all. Also it took a nuke to take out a kryptonite weakened superman which is way above an oil rig vs corenswets that was getting his ass beat by soldiers when exposed to kryptonite if we're gonna low-ball there.

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@kevinforgod: You mean lifting or pulling Iris? Even Snyder's Superman can do that.. and Thor is like an anchor to break Ice/start the engine.. Rocket did all the heavy lifting with the space pod

What do you mean he never hurts his enemies? DCEU Supes not only hurts his enemies, he destroys Nam-Ek, Faora, breaks Zod's neck, breaks Batman's mask, kills Doomsday, breaks Steppenwolf's armor which didn't even get a scratch from WW's sword slash, Mr. Zack Snyder even said Steppenwolf stalemated the real Doomsday, their clash was so intense they even destroyed the Moon, and Supes soloed most of humanity in the Knightmare scene.

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@kevinforgod: You mean lifting or pulling Iris? Even Snyder's Superman can do that.. and Thor is like an anchor to break Ice/start the engine.. Rocket did all the heavy lifting with the space pod

What do you mean he never hurts his enemies? DCEU Supes not only hurts his enemies, he destroys Nam-Ek, Faora, breaks Zod's neck, breaks Batman's mask, kills Doomsday, breaks Steppenwolf's armor which didn't even get a scratch from WW's sword slash, Mr. Zack Snyder even said Steppenwolf stalemated the real Doomsday, their clash was so intense they even destroyed the Moon, and Supes soloed most of humanity in the Knightmare scene.

Almost all if this is untrue.. but especially the underlined part.. it’s most untrue.

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There are a BUNCH of feats coming, just from this mini-trailer alone. Black hole, city-splitting, super-speed, HV spam and bunch others etc

Movie looks amazing I’m really liking how action scenes are being shot

Damn the action looks awesome, though I'm still not a big fan of the color grading.

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You mean lifting or pulling Iris? Even Snyder's Superman can do that.. and Thor is like an anchor to break Ice/start the engine.. Rocket did all the heavy lifting with the space pod

Do you know how action-reaction forces work?

Mr. Zack Snyder even said Steppenwolf stalemated the real Doomsday,

No he didn’t. This was only referenced in a shoddy issue of Hollywood Magazine, with zero citation or quotation from anyone, much less Snyder himself. Whichever dude wrote the issue straight-up made it up.

their clash was so intense they even destroyed the Moon,

This never happened at all. Snyder implied that the broken Moon in the background of the opening scene in MoS was caused by Doomsday. Only an implication though, in full detail he said: “Notice up there is the broken moon. Which in the comic book lore that moon was broken a long time ago by Doomsday… We wanted to plant early. That Doomsday is a thing that could exist…”. Note the underlined parts - not only is it not explicitly confirmed that it was due to old Doomsday, there’s zero mention that it occurred during its non-existent battle with Steppenwolf (even the made-up source states Steppenwolf only survived an encounter, not that he fought evenly). The Moon isn’t fully busted either; large chunks are split, but that’s all. Rocky moons can be as small as 300km in radius to be spherical too. All in all, dumb wank.

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@rizaadxn: The colour looked a little different for the main trailer in cinemas when I saw it come up

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#42  Edited By JoeSmithy226

people cant even wait till the movie's out. crazy

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World engine feats claps the verse.

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#44 frozen  Moderator

World engine feats claps the verse.

Nothing really impressive about this feat

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@rjr: Statement Without Onscreen Feats Are irrelevant. There's Zero Onscreen Feats To Suggest That Dceu Superman Is Close To Stronger Than Planet.

Zero Onscreen Feat To Suggest That He Can Take A Nuke Which Had Already Destroyed Him.

Cronswert Superman Was Shattering His Opponents Teeths, Dceu Superman Couldn't Hurt Faora But She Was Koed By Missile And Killed By Fodder Flash.

- Couldn't Hurt Namek, Was Also Beaten By Namek But Human Level Batman Statued And Killed Freaking Namek With The Smallest Version Of Grenade.

- DCEU Superman Couldn't KO Steppenwolf But Human Level Parademons Overpowered Him And Were Hurting Him Far More Than Superman Ever Did.

- Doomsday Couldn't Tag Batman But He Tag The Crap Outta Dceu Superman.

DCU Superman>>>DCEU Superman.

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@clusterfvck: - The Ring Feats Are Forever Than Better Than Anything Anyone Has Achieved In DCEU No Matter How You Wanna Twist It.

- He Never Destroyed Namek Or Faora. A Missile Koed Faora Than Superman Could Ever Imagined. Fodder Flash On Speed Killed Faora Than Superman Could Ever Imagine.

- Namek Could Eat DCEU Superman's Punches Any Day But He Was Statued And Killed By Human Level Batman With Small Grenade.

- Breaking Zod's Neck Is Kinda Irrelevant, Batman And Flash Killed A Kryptonian Without Trying.

- He Killed Doomsday With Kryptonite With The Help Of Batman And Wonder Woman

_ Breaking Steppenwolf's Armour Is Weak Feat When Amazonians Also Pierced It With Arrows Which Means Wonder Woman's Sword Is Weak And Doomsday Can Be Killed By Amazonians With Arrows.

- Snyder's Statements Are Non Canon To DCEU Onscreen Feats. No One In DCEU Can Destroy Are City Talk More Of Moon. Humanity Was Never Soloed. Doomsday>Nuke>>>>>>>Superman>>Steppenwolf

The Thing Is That Fodders Tends To Hurt Dceu High Tiers More Than The High Tiers Hurt Each Other.

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#48  Edited By RJR
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@rjr: Statement Without Onscreen Feats Are irrelevant. There's Zero Onscreen Feats To Suggest That Dceu Superman Is Close To Stronger Than Planet.

Zero Onscreen Feat To Suggest That He Can Take A Nuke Which Had Already Destroyed Him.

Cronswert Superman Was Shattering His Opponents Teeths, Dceu Superman Couldn't Hurt Faora But She Was Koed By Missile And Killed By Fodder Flash.

- Couldn't Hurt Namek, Was Also Beaten By Namek But Human Level Batman Statued And Killed Freaking Namek With The Smallest Version Of Grenade.

- DCEU Superman Couldn't KO Steppenwolf But Human Level Parademons Overpowered Him And Were Hurting Him Far More Than Superman Ever Did.

- Doomsday Couldn't Tag Batman But He Tag The Crap Outta Dceu Superman.

DCU Superman>>>DCEU Superman.

You all are the ones who kept using statements at face value for sentry, now it's only fair game for DCEU superman and no they are not irrelevant given it's newspaper discussing an event that happened in that world, which still makes it canon. So based on your alls habits of using statements and their newspaper proving an in world event. Im going to continue using this feat whether you like it or not. A nuke that destroyed him while he was weakened by kryptonite, literally shown on screen that as soon as he was shown purged of the kryptonite from the sun he got stronger and faster vs while it was still in his system. Also superman was also able to snap zods neck, meanwhile corenswets couldn't even snap a luthor corp raptor soldiers neck when striking his jaw and only managing to punching out teeth (since we're lowballing here), also again you didn't watch the movie, otherwise you would have realized she was weakened from her attacks by superman and sensory overload, also feats for flash and the metal that's Kryptonian (again you lowballing and not taking into account context is astonishing), so no anti feats there (lowballing ain't doing you any favors). Namek was literally knocked out by superman punching him into a train yard (again, it's obvious you didn't watch the movie), try again, also not the same namek superman fought, in fact the faora you are using is not the same faora superman fought, so everything you just said is irrelevant because their variants lol. Also you want to bring up namek being taken out by a c4 charge when we literally see corenswets superman flying away from fire and getting his ass beat by two luthor corp raptor soldiers. Josstice league is not canon so irrelevant, also did we forget that Superman was ripping off one of his horns with his heat vision? Lowballing doomsday with batman again? Or are we forgetting he tanked a nuke straight to the face and was able to keep up with batman jet and catch a fully recovered superman in mid flight, the same superman that was able to fly from the antarctic to Africa and from Wayne Manor to space in a matter of second, oh but I bet you conveniently forgot those as well. You want to keep low-balling, than let's go ahead. You all want to keep using statements at face value than by all means, but just remember that I can just as easily do the same as well.

And since you all want to use statements at face value, again I'm going to keep using Superman tectonic plates feats whether you like it or not, and until corenswets shows feats of traveling from the ground to space in a matter of seconds and shifting tectonic plates, his current trailer feats aren't beating cavills feats yet.

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Stronger? Yeah. Holding multiple skyscrapers simultaneously with minimal effort should already cement him as the strongest LA powerhouse - provided, of course, he remains consistent. That said, his predecessor utterly dominates the remaining categories: superior operational speed, striking power, durability, and a vastly more powerful heat vision etc. I think reserving final judgement until the actual film releases is the wiser course of action here. For now, Cavill remains a tier above.

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