So the Odin-magics stuck, dormant like with Dr Strange.
She shares blood with Agamotto because she is an descendant of Oshtur
She is the exemplar of the mystic forces in her bloodline. Which comes from Atum, Demiurge, Oshtur, Keku (agent of Chthon), and Oshtur (who represents infinite cosmos).
The magic in her bloodline is strong enough to counter All Father Thor.
This just confirms Storm is connected to the Elder Gods which makes sense with Immortal Thor dealing Asgard and Elder Gods etc
@kasya_carey: Imo it is clear just by who that guy is, the dark elf Malekith. When Malekith had All-Black the Necrosword, he was defeated by Thor using the reforged Mjolnir. The Ultimate Mjolnir turned into Undrjarn the All-Weapon in the same issue.
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Ultimate Mjolnir was from a Asgard long passed, had the rage of a dead universe within it. Mjolnir has always been the bane of All-Black.
When Storm last lifted Mjolnir, Beta Ray Bill said holding the hammer felt like Asgard was holding him at her very heart. Deep echoes of Asgard in her blood is consistent with that.
So the Odin-magics stuck, dormant like with Dr Strange.
She shares blood with Agamotto because she is an descendant of Oshtur
She is the exemplar of the mystic forces in her bloodline. Which comes from Atum, Demiurge, Oshtur, Keku (agent of Chthon), and Oshtur (who represents infinite cosmos).
The magic in her bloodline is strong enough to counter All Father Thor.
This just confirms Storm is connected to the Elder Gods which makes sense with Immortal Thor dealing Asgard and Elder Gods etc
Mate, This's a lot of scaling based on statements with no credible feat. Thor is direct descendent of Demiurge, that doesn't make him exemplar of mystic forces that represent infinite cosmos.
This feat is direct proof of odin magic she got by wielding mjolnir & stormcaster & the mention of asgard is proof of that. Until she shows her own magic, statements is nothing but statements. I expected her to show magic in her current run but they turned 1 of the only 2 mutant I like & respect to herald/vassal of Eternity.
Only time Ororo shows magic is when she's in Thor comic.
So the Odin-magics stuck, dormant like with Dr Strange.
She shares blood with Agamotto because she is an descendant of Oshtur
She is the exemplar of the mystic forces in her bloodline. Which comes from Atum, Demiurge, Oshtur, Keku (agent of Chthon), and Oshtur (who represents infinite cosmos).
The magic in her bloodline is strong enough to counter All Father Thor.
This just confirms Storm is connected to the Elder Gods which makes sense with Immortal Thor dealing Asgard and Elder Gods etc
Mate, This's a lot of scaling based on statements with no credible feat. Thor is direct descendent of Demiurge, that doesn't make him exemplar of mystic forces that represent infinite cosmos.
This feat is direct proof of odin magic she got by wielding mjolnir & stormcaster & the mention of asgard is proof of that. Until she shows her own magic, statements is nothing but statements. I expected her to show magic in her current run but they turned 1 of the only 2 mutant I like & respect to herald/vassal of Eternity.
Only time Ororo shows magic is when she's in Thor comic.
Speaking of Odin magics...
Not even just Thor'ing up with the hammer but straight up anything tied to Asgard.
@geomanthe3rd: I don't think it's literally Odin's blood, but yee it's the Odin-magic running through her blood, an echo of her once wielding the power of Thor.
So the Odin-magics stuck, dormant like with Dr Strange.
She shares blood with Agamotto because she is an descendant of Oshtur
She is the exemplar of the mystic forces in her bloodline. Which comes from Atum, Demiurge, Oshtur, Keku (agent of Chthon), and Oshtur (who represents infinite cosmos).
The magic in her bloodline is strong enough to counter All Father Thor.
This just confirms Storm is connected to the Elder Gods which makes sense with Immortal Thor dealing Asgard and Elder Gods etc
Mate, This's a lot of scaling based on statements with no credible feat. Thor is direct descendent of Demiurge, that doesn't make him exemplar of mystic forces that represent infinite cosmos.
This feat is direct proof of odin magic she got by wielding mjolnir & stormcaster & the mention of asgard is proof of that. Until she shows her own magic, statements is nothing but statements. I expected her to show magic in her current run but they turned 1 of the only 2 mutant I like & respect to herald/vassal of Eternity.
Only time Ororo shows magic is when she's in Thor comic.
She’s been using magic since her debut as she was operating a mystic portal. This all examples of her using magic. Along with many more even an omniversal being like Adversary stated she had spiritual powers which were a threat to him
You also haven‘t read up on Ashake who is Storm’s ancestor. Ashake and Heku-Nut were chosen to be exemplars of the primordial gods powers and they favored her more. If you read Al Ewing interviews he states he plays off this lore.
Which why Storm in the future could call on those same primordial gods like Amun aka Atum and Hauhet who is over the infinite cosmos. Just like her ancestors could. The same power Ashake used to fight Shadow King which was stated in Gambit mini series which Ewing referenced. Ewing then retconned (or changed what he originally intended to be) SK as a Phoenix level threat to cosmos.
Am I really throwing out stuff or are you lazing not researching?
So this isn't base Storm, because she is able to do the things because of Odin's blood?
Base Storm is magic and a goddess. The mutant stuff is just extra. She‘s just a novice in magic and mostly use it as a conduit to her mutant powers to amp there. However it’s shown that Storm is a power house when using it.
So the Odin-magics stuck, dormant like with Dr Strange.
She shares blood with Agamotto because she is an descendant of Oshtur
She is the exemplar of the mystic forces in her bloodline. Which comes from Atum, Demiurge, Oshtur, Keku (agent of Chthon), and Oshtur (who represents infinite cosmos).
The magic in her bloodline is strong enough to counter All Father Thor.
This just confirms Storm is connected to the Elder Gods which makes sense with Immortal Thor dealing Asgard and Elder Gods etc
Mate, This's a lot of scaling based on statements with no credible feat. Thor is direct descendent of Demiurge, that doesn't make him exemplar of mystic forces that represent infinite cosmos.
This feat is direct proof of odin magic she got by wielding mjolnir & stormcaster & the mention of asgard is proof of that. Until she shows her own magic, statements is nothing but statements. I expected her to show magic in her current run but they turned 1 of the only 2 mutant I like & respect to herald/vassal of Eternity.
Only time Ororo shows magic is when she's in Thor comic.
This is storm using her weather manipulation ability to help people facing drought, something she has being doing from the beginning, helping villages with rain. How is this magic, just cuz apocalypse says mutant magic, but he also says mutant technology. Also his description of her power isn't proof of magic, Ororo was always called weaver of breeze, rain and storm.In this instances, her calling her ancestors might be considered channeling their magic but in the end She finishes it with you standing on cloud meaning there's atmosphere thus weather to manipulate like she did in the blue side of the moon against Thor in Immortal Thor #4. She's also just using her lightning unless you want say every time she uses her lightning is magic.This is statement. Can you show what he did if you can.
She’s been using magic since her debut as she was operating a mystic portal. This all examples of her using magic. Along with many more even an omniversal being like Adversary stated she had spiritual powers which were a threat to him.
Omniversal what? I am not interested in power level please.
You also haven‘t read up on Ashake who is Storm’s ancestor. Ashake and Heku-Nut were chosen to be exemplars of the primordial gods powers and they favored her more. If you read Al Ewing interviews he states he plays off this lore.
I read Ewing and his extreme interest in lores and deconstruction of everything Marvel. I also don't care for her ancestors and I never denied her ancestors but just said just cuz she's descent does mean she automatically gets magic, she has to show it consistently which she does not. They only remember her magic when she's with other magical characters.
Which why Storm in the future could call on those same primordial gods like Amun aka Atum and Hauhet who is over the infinite cosmos (Not interested in power level or her ancestors being omnipotent of everything, don't why you keep saying omniversal or infinite cosmos). Just like her ancestors could. The same power Ashake used to fight Shadow King which was stated in Gambit mini series which Ewing referenced. Ewing then retconned (or changed what he originally intended to be) SK as a Phoenix level threat to cosmos.
You are very dependent on statements on panel which I already told you has being happening since Marvel introduced her. Scaling from A to B to C statements proves nothing. While panel statement is good, statement without consistent feat matters little.
Last, 2nd & little bit of the 3rd scan is the only magical part which is not consistent of Storm.
Again, I never denied her having potential magic but Storm does not show magic as much as she shows mutant & cosmic power. 90% of her actions & feats are mutant and now cosmic cuz of Eternity. Also what Raj posted has to do with Odin magic not her ancestors. It's clearly called Asgardian not Oshtur or Atum
Am I really throwing out stuff or are you lazing not researching?
Don't be rude, its unbecoming, calling me lazy. I didn't say you are throwing stuff out, I said you are using statements. Ororo has magic but she does not have the consistent feats of magic, everything she does is mutant and Eternity power
I also don't know why we are having this discussion, it matter little to the feat posted by Raj which clearly states Asgardian, its Odin magic and has nothing to do her ancestor.
So the Odin-magics stuck, dormant like with Dr Strange.
She shares blood with Agamotto because she is an descendant of Oshtur
She is the exemplar of the mystic forces in her bloodline. Which comes from Atum, Demiurge, Oshtur, Keku (agent of Chthon), and Oshtur (who represents infinite cosmos).
The magic in her bloodline is strong enough to counter All Father Thor.
This just confirms Storm is connected to the Elder Gods which makes sense with Immortal Thor dealing Asgard and Elder Gods etc
Mate, This's a lot of scaling based on statements with no credible feat. Thor is direct descendent of Demiurge, that doesn't make him exemplar of mystic forces that represent infinite cosmos.
This feat is direct proof of odin magic she got by wielding mjolnir & stormcaster & the mention of asgard is proof of that. Until she shows her own magic, statements is nothing but statements. I expected her to show magic in her current run but they turned 1 of the only 2 mutant I like & respect to herald/vassal of Eternity.
Only time Ororo shows magic is when she's in Thor comic.
Speaking of Odin magics...
Not even just Thor'ing up with the hammer but straight up anything tied to Asgard.
Thanks pal. He even says Asgardian meaning he sensed Asgardian in her.
So the Odin-magics stuck, dormant like with Dr Strange.
She shares blood with Agamotto because she is an descendant of Oshtur
She is the exemplar of the mystic forces in her bloodline. Which comes from Atum, Demiurge, Oshtur, Keku (agent of Chthon), and Oshtur (who represents infinite cosmos).
The magic in her bloodline is strong enough to counter All Father Thor.
This just confirms Storm is connected to the Elder Gods which makes sense with Immortal Thor dealing Asgard and Elder Gods etc
Mate, This's a lot of scaling based on statements with no credible feat. Thor is direct descendent of Demiurge, that doesn't make him exemplar of mystic forces that represent infinite cosmos.
This feat is direct proof of odin magic she got by wielding mjolnir & stormcaster & the mention of asgard is proof of that. Until she shows her own magic, statements is nothing but statements. I expected her to show magic in her current run but they turned 1 of the only 2 mutant I like & respect to herald/vassal of Eternity.
Only time Ororo shows magic is when she's in Thor comic.
This is storm using her weather manipulation ability to help people facing drought, something she has being doing from the beginning, helping villages with rain. How is this magic, just cuz apocalypse says mutant magic, but he also says mutant technology. Also his description of her power isn't proof of magic, Ororo was always called weaver of breeze, rain and storm.In this instances, her calling her ancestors might be considered channeling their magic but in the end She finishes it with you standing on cloud meaning there's atmosphere thus weather to manipulate like she did in the blue side of the moon against Thor in Immortal Thor #4. She's also just using her lightning unless you want say every time she uses her lightning is magic.This is statement. Can you show what he did if you can.
She’s been using magic since her debut as she was operating a mystic portal. This all examples of her using magic. Along with many more even an omniversal being like Adversary stated she had spiritual powers which were a threat to him.
Omniversal what? I am not interested in power level please.
You also haven‘t read up on Ashake who is Storm’s ancestor. Ashake and Heku-Nut were chosen to be exemplars of the primordial gods powers and they favored her more. If you read Al Ewing interviews he states he plays off this lore.
I read Ewing and his extreme interest in lores and deconstruction of everything Marvel. I also don't care for her ancestors and I never denied her ancestors but just said just cuz she's descent does mean she automatically gets magic, she has to show it consistently which she does not. They only remember her magic when she's with other magical characters.
Which why Storm in the future could call on those same primordial gods like Amun aka Atum and Hauhet who is over the infinite cosmos (Not interested in power level or her ancestors being omnipotent of everything, don't why you keep saying omniversal or infinite cosmos). Just like her ancestors could. The same power Ashake used to fight Shadow King which was stated in Gambit mini series which Ewing referenced. Ewing then retconned (or changed what he originally intended to be) SK as a Phoenix level threat to cosmos.
You are very dependent on statements on panel which I already told you has being happening since Marvel introduced her. Scaling from A to B to C statements proves nothing. While panel statement is good, statement without consistent feat matters little.
Last, 2nd & little bit of the 3rd scan is the only magical part which is not consistent of Storm.
Again, I never denied her having potential magic but Storm does not show magic as much as she shows mutant & cosmic power. 90% of her actions & feats are mutant and now cosmic cuz of Eternity. Also what Raj posted has to do with Odin magic not her ancestors. It's clearly called Asgardian not Oshtur or Atum
Am I really throwing out stuff or are you lazing not researching?
Don't be rude, its unbecoming, calling me lazy. I didn't say you are throwing stuff out, I said you are using statements. Ororo has magic but she does not have the consistent feats of magic, everything she does is mutant and Eternity power
I also don't know why we are having this discussion, it matter little to the feat posted by Raj which clearly states Asgardian, its Odin magic and has nothing to do her ancestor.
Reading your response you just proved you have no clue what you’re talking about. Especially when Wanda told her to tap into her magic ancestry
And you just proved even more you have no clue when you commented about Storm in the waiting room a realm carved from the core of Magic itself.
But anyways as stated she’s connected to the primordial gods and future storm mastering her mystic powers can call upon them. Future Storm literally taught Magik the mystic arts.
So the Odin-magics stuck, dormant like with Dr Strange.
She shares blood with Agamotto because she is an descendant of Oshtur
She is the exemplar of the mystic forces in her bloodline. Which comes from Atum, Demiurge, Oshtur, Keku (agent of Chthon), and Oshtur (who represents infinite cosmos).
The magic in her bloodline is strong enough to counter All Father Thor.
This just confirms Storm is connected to the Elder Gods which makes sense with Immortal Thor dealing Asgard and Elder Gods etc
Mate, This's a lot of scaling based on statements with no credible feat. Thor is direct descendent of Demiurge, that doesn't make him exemplar of mystic forces that represent infinite cosmos.
This feat is direct proof of odin magic she got by wielding mjolnir & stormcaster & the mention of asgard is proof of that. Until she shows her own magic, statements is nothing but statements. I expected her to show magic in her current run but they turned 1 of the only 2 mutant I like & respect to herald/vassal of Eternity.
Only time Ororo shows magic is when she's in Thor comic.
This is storm using her weather manipulation ability to help people facing drought, something she has being doing from the beginning, helping villages with rain. How is this magic, just cuz apocalypse says mutant magic, but he also says mutant technology. Also his description of her power isn't proof of magic, Ororo was always called weaver of breeze, rain and storm.In this instances, her calling her ancestors might be considered channeling their magic but in the end She finishes it with you standing on cloud meaning there's atmosphere thus weather to manipulate like she did in the blue side of the moon against Thor in Immortal Thor #4. She's also just using her lightning unless you want say every time she uses her lightning is magic.This is statement. Can you show what he did if you can.
She’s been using magic since her debut as she was operating a mystic portal. This all examples of her using magic. Along with many more even an omniversal being like Adversary stated she had spiritual powers which were a threat to him.
Omniversal what? I am not interested in power level please.
You also haven‘t read up on Ashake who is Storm’s ancestor. Ashake and Heku-Nut were chosen to be exemplars of the primordial gods powers and they favored her more. If you read Al Ewing interviews he states he plays off this lore.
I read Ewing and his extreme interest in lores and deconstruction of everything Marvel. I also don't care for her ancestors and I never denied her ancestors but just said just cuz she's descent does mean she automatically gets magic, she has to show it consistently which she does not. They only remember her magic when she's with other magical characters.
Which why Storm in the future could call on those same primordial gods like Amun aka Atum and Hauhet who is over the infinite cosmos (Not interested in power level or her ancestors being omnipotent of everything, don't why you keep saying omniversal or infinite cosmos). Just like her ancestors could. The same power Ashake used to fight Shadow King which was stated in Gambit mini series which Ewing referenced. Ewing then retconned (or changed what he originally intended to be) SK as a Phoenix level threat to cosmos.
You are very dependent on statements on panel which I already told you has being happening since Marvel introduced her. Scaling from A to B to C statements proves nothing. While panel statement is good, statement without consistent feat matters little.
Last, 2nd & little bit of the 3rd scan is the only magical part which is not consistent of Storm.
Again, I never denied her having potential magic but Storm does not show magic as much as she shows mutant & cosmic power. 90% of her actions & feats are mutant and now cosmic cuz of Eternity. Also what Raj posted has to do with Odin magic not her ancestors. It's clearly called Asgardian not Oshtur or Atum
Am I really throwing out stuff or are you lazing not researching?
Don't be rude, its unbecoming, calling me lazy. I didn't say you are throwing stuff out, I said you are using statements. Ororo has magic but she does not have the consistent feats of magic, everything she does is mutant and Eternity power
I also don't know why we are having this discussion, it matter little to the feat posted by Raj which clearly states Asgardian, its Odin magic and has nothing to do her ancestor.
Reading your response you just proved you have no clue what you’re talking about. Especially when Wanda told her to tap into her magic ancestry
And you just proved even more you have no clue when you commented about Storm in the waiting room a realm carved from the core of Magic itself.
But anyways as stated she’s connected to the primordial gods and future storm mastering her mystic powers can call upon them. Future Storm literally taught Magik the mystic arts.
Your obsession with statements don't prove anything. I am sorry that you're having hard time accepting that statement mean nothing without feat.
Your entire argument is she's descent of so & so, connected to primordial gods as if that means anything or wanda told her to do this or that
It seems you've your own version of Storm based on your subjective narrative & Marvel have their own version of Storm based on what they write.
Let's agree to disagree. I have no energy or desire to go back & forth. Have a great day.
So the Odin-magics stuck, dormant like with Dr Strange.
She shares blood with Agamotto because she is an descendant of Oshtur
She is the exemplar of the mystic forces in her bloodline. Which comes from Atum, Demiurge, Oshtur, Keku (agent of Chthon), and Oshtur (who represents infinite cosmos).
The magic in her bloodline is strong enough to counter All Father Thor.
This just confirms Storm is connected to the Elder Gods which makes sense with Immortal Thor dealing Asgard and Elder Gods etc
Mate, This's a lot of scaling based on statements with no credible feat. Thor is direct descendent of Demiurge, that doesn't make him exemplar of mystic forces that represent infinite cosmos.
This feat is direct proof of odin magic she got by wielding mjolnir & stormcaster & the mention of asgard is proof of that. Until she shows her own magic, statements is nothing but statements. I expected her to show magic in her current run but they turned 1 of the only 2 mutant I like & respect to herald/vassal of Eternity.
Only time Ororo shows magic is when she's in Thor comic.
This is storm using her weather manipulation ability to help people facing drought, something she has being doing from the beginning, helping villages with rain. How is this magic, just cuz apocalypse says mutant magic, but he also says mutant technology. Also his description of her power isn't proof of magic, Ororo was always called weaver of breeze, rain and storm.In this instances, her calling her ancestors might be considered channeling their magic but in the end She finishes it with you standing on cloud meaning there's atmosphere thus weather to manipulate like she did in the blue side of the moon against Thor in Immortal Thor #4. She's also just using her lightning unless you want say every time she uses her lightning is magic.This is statement. Can you show what he did if you can.
She’s been using magic since her debut as she was operating a mystic portal. This all examples of her using magic. Along with many more even an omniversal being like Adversary stated she had spiritual powers which were a threat to him.
Omniversal what? I am not interested in power level please.
You also haven‘t read up on Ashake who is Storm’s ancestor. Ashake and Heku-Nut were chosen to be exemplars of the primordial gods powers and they favored her more. If you read Al Ewing interviews he states he plays off this lore.
I read Ewing and his extreme interest in lores and deconstruction of everything Marvel. I also don't care for her ancestors and I never denied her ancestors but just said just cuz she's descent does mean she automatically gets magic, she has to show it consistently which she does not. They only remember her magic when she's with other magical characters.
Which why Storm in the future could call on those same primordial gods like Amun aka Atum and Hauhet who is over the infinite cosmos (Not interested in power level or her ancestors being omnipotent of everything, don't why you keep saying omniversal or infinite cosmos). Just like her ancestors could. The same power Ashake used to fight Shadow King which was stated in Gambit mini series which Ewing referenced. Ewing then retconned (or changed what he originally intended to be) SK as a Phoenix level threat to cosmos.
You are very dependent on statements on panel which I already told you has being happening since Marvel introduced her. Scaling from A to B to C statements proves nothing. While panel statement is good, statement without consistent feat matters little.
Last, 2nd & little bit of the 3rd scan is the only magical part which is not consistent of Storm.
Again, I never denied her having potential magic but Storm does not show magic as much as she shows mutant & cosmic power. 90% of her actions & feats are mutant and now cosmic cuz of Eternity. Also what Raj posted has to do with Odin magic not her ancestors. It's clearly called Asgardian not Oshtur or Atum
Am I really throwing out stuff or are you lazing not researching?
Don't be rude, its unbecoming, calling me lazy. I didn't say you are throwing stuff out, I said you are using statements. Ororo has magic but she does not have the consistent feats of magic, everything she does is mutant and Eternity power
I also don't know why we are having this discussion, it matter little to the feat posted by Raj which clearly states Asgardian, its Odin magic and has nothing to do her ancestor.
Reading your response you just proved you have no clue what you’re talking about. Especially when Wanda told her to tap into her magic ancestry
And you just proved even more you have no clue when you commented about Storm in the waiting room a realm carved from the core of Magic itself.
But anyways as stated she’s connected to the primordial gods and future storm mastering her mystic powers can call upon them. Future Storm literally taught Magik the mystic arts.
Your obsession with statements don't prove anything. I am sorry that you're having hard time accepting that statement mean nothing without feat.
Your entire argument is she's descent of so & so, connected to primordial gods as if that means anything or wanda told her to do this or that
It seems you've your own version of Storm based on your subjective narrative & Marvel have their own version of Storm based on what they write.
Let's agree to disagree. I have no energy or desire to go back & forth. Have a great day.
Obsession yet you didn’t debunk anything you proved you had no context of any of the scans. You legit didn’t even know what’s going in story. Next you reply at least read the books please and thank stick to One Piece.
I’m not agreeing to disagree for nothing. Don’t respond to be trying to debunk me and look clueless as hell. You don‘t want to go back and worth because you can’t debunk any scan I showed without not having any context.
@pansito: Oh he got torn to pieces by the Wild Hunt, his own pets after Thor clobbered him lol. Undrjarn was created in the same comic so I think this is a future version
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