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Poll What is ichigos ap (37 votes)

Large Planet level 49%
Star level 0%
Solar System level 0%
Galaxy level 11%
Universal+ 11%
Low Multiversal 5%
Multiversal+ 3%
Low Complex Multiversal 22%

Where does he scale

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#2  Edited By Trideca001

Yhwach doesn’t scale to Low multiversal bruh💀, only SK in the verse is Multi planetary to Large star, all he created was The 3 realms and the Dangai, everything else was there already before he even existed, yhwach just tried to return the realms back to its original state, by Environmental chain destruction, his Ap scales no where close to anything similar , SK yhwach is at best Multi planetary possibly higher , Ichigo is at least Planet level possibly Large planet level. And statue’s with what speed feats against Naruto and One piece chars💀, Doubt he can solos the Naruto verse right now though , but he probably does One piece(but who knows).

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#4  Edited By Trideca001

@gorilla_d_ruffy: lol get him past Multi planetary first Clorox-fanboy, you believing your false wank don’t mean it’s true , So cope💀

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@trideca001: lmao you one piece wanker, base Ichigo in the anime was multi-planetary at the absolutely disgustingly-minimum lowball based on ichibei's statement

keep lowballing bleach and thinking luffy is lightspeed or something

you one piece wankers can do nothing but cope, seethe, and call luffy "MTFL+++ Multi-Planetary at Lowball"

you're beyond pathetic

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#6  Edited By Trideca001

@gorilla_d_ruffy: lol did you hear that from me ,All I said is Naruto and One Piece chars have factually greater speed feats and statements than Bleach , only a Staunch bleach fanboy like you would think otherwise. lol at Base Multi-planet(leave it to bleach Stans to interpret Emotion/Mental burden as deadlifting 3 realms💀)ichigo show me feats above the Mountain level feats he performed against Godzen 🤦🏽‍♂️💀, if you Mean HOS + true Bankai then yea he probably Large planet level.

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Continental

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None of the above.

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Nice battle, also rather original I would say

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The mods should move this to general discussion

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I've have seen as high as solar and low as hill level so no clue

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@laufnyr said:

Nice battle, also rather original I would say

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@gorilla_d_ruffy: lol did you hear that from me ,All I said is Naruto and One Piece chars have factually greater speed feats and statements than Bleach , only a Staunch bleach fanboy like you would think otherwise. lol at Base Multi-planet(leave it to bleach Stans to interpret Emotion/Mental burden as deadlifting 3 realms💀)ichigo show me feats above the Mountain level feats he performed against Godzen 🤦🏽‍♂️💀, if you Mean HOS + true Bankai then yea he probably Large planet level.

Lol the cope,ichigo wasn't lifting emotions,it's everything he wants o protect which was stated to be the realms how do you protect emotions and how does emotions have weight?

Yhwach is extremely lowball it's stated he's destroying everything even the garganata a infinite dimension housing all other dimensions

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High complex multiversal*

*As long as its size doesn't exceed that of a hill

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You know what?

Star level+

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#21  Edited By Trideca001

@undre: bruh it’s a metaphor , he ain’t dead lifting nothing , it just basically about his emotional/Mental burdens💀. Lol he is barely Large planetary. Yhwach was trying to return everything back to it’s original state, all SK created was 3 realms(planets) and dangai(boundary), Garganta and shit like Hell already existed before him. Yhwach wasn’t trying to destroy it AP wise , he was trying to collapse everything through environment destruction via soul society to return everything back to the Primordial soup so he doesn’t scale 🤦🏽‍♂️💀.

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@ninjarizer: Nah he ain’t Star level even SK is barely Star level and above , Ichigo is still a Large planetary level char at max.

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What's with all the new alts trying to bait users?

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#24  Edited By takenstew22  Online
@kingogkings777 said:

What's with all the new alts trying to bait users?

It's Comic Vine. It happens every week.

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@undre: bruh it’s a metaphor , he ain’t dead lifting nothing , it just basically about his emotional/Mental burdens💀. Lol he is barely Large planetary. Yhwach was trying to return everything back to it’s original state, all SK created was 3 realms(planets) and dangai(boundary), Garganta and shit like Hell already existed before him. Yhwach wasn’t trying to destroy it AP wise , he was trying to collapse everything through environment destruction via soul society to return everything back to the Primordial soup so he doesn’t scale 🤦🏽‍♂️💀.

How would he collapse it?

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#26  Edited By Trideca001

@ninjarizer: by destroying the SS to collapse the Garganta.

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EOS?

Idk, he was able to hit kill Yhwach once.

Should scale higher than the meteor that could wipe out Seireitei for sure. Vasto Lord Ichigo was already above country level.

So maybe continental.

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@kingogkings777 said:

What's with all the new alts trying to bait users?

It's Comic Vine. It happens every week.

Grass is a foreign concept to some.

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#29  Edited By Constantine9000

Not even hill level.

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#30  Edited By Zetsu-San

I think vine needs to let go of physical attack power being the be all end all of fights.

Metaphysical power is a thing, and it’s far more relevant to battles than people want to think. Just look at Witching Hour Wonder Woman, she has direct statements of having enough magic to ”create a universe”, but you’d be hard pressed to find a single explosion or energy blast beyond large building level. You can’t even blame it on an unwillingness for the writer to destroy Earth, since not even the climactic battle inside UDM’s empty dimension, consisted of anything that could be argued as physically beyond a city block for physical force.

There are also multiple Marvel stories involving skyfather+ beings, where it’s directly stated that most of the energy in x attacks, are in a completely different plane, and that the actual physical force is minimal (not even destroying the room they are in).

To me, Ichigo is just one of those characters where, even if his attacks “appear” physical, they aren’t; and while he may not be able to bust a planet, he should still be able to resist and harm entities who are Universal “because magic”.

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I think vine needs to let go of physical attack power being the be all end all of fights.

Metaphysical power is a thing, and it’s far more relevant to battles than people want to think. Just look at Witching Hour Wonder Woman, she has direct statements of having enough magic to ”create a universe”, but you’d be hard pressed to find a single explosion or energy blast beyond large building level. You can’t even blame it on an unwillingness for the writer to destroy Earth, since not even the climactic battle inside UDM’s empty dimension, consisted of anything that could be argued as physically beyond a city block for physical force.

There are also multiple Marvel stories involving skyfather+ beings, where it’s directly stated that most of the energy in x attacks, are in a completely different plane, and that the actual physical force is minimal (not even destroying the room they are in).

To me, Ichigo is just one of those characters where, even if his attacks “appear” physical, they aren’t; and while he may not be able to bust a planet, he should still be able to resist and harm entities who are Universal “because magic”.

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Saying AP doesn’t exist is VS Battle Terrorism

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Still 2 digit exatons aka Multi Continentlevel+

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@dertilt said:

Still 2 digit exatons aka Multi Continentlevel+

Shouldnt Ichigo scale above Sennas Explosion?

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@luthluth said:
@dertilt said:

Still 2 digit exatons aka Multi Continentlevel+

Shouldnt Ichigo scale above Sennas Explosion?

Rofl,Senna was amped by tons of hollows.No reason to believe anybody scales to that

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@dertilt said:
@luthluth said:
@dertilt said:

Still 2 digit exatons aka Multi Continentlevel+

Shouldnt Ichigo scale above Sennas Explosion?

Rofl,Senna was amped by tons of hollows. No reason to believe anybody scales to that

Just trying to be objective, I know Bleach can be vague with some aspects. It wasn't hollows it was entities called Blanks. Don't you think the Soul King Yhwach and consequently Bankai Ichigo should logically scale above Senna and all those blanks? Secondly Kubo does a small sketch at the end of a chapter in the official translation to give somethings context. I really think EOS Ichigo and SK Yhwach are just in a class of their own, orders of magnitudes higher than anybody else in Bleach.

Some Sketches shows how Soul King Yhwach would destroy the Universes/Dimensions:

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#37  Edited By Undre

@dertilt: Those were not hollows those were blanks(fallen souls with no memory). The valley of screams are made from souls which strayed from the soul society and the wol. Ss and wol has far more souls the Valley of screams. Soul King holds a larger number souls plus the realms. So ichigo would upscale from senna.

Plus it's stated many times ichigo and aizen had transcended everything up to that point

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#39  Edited By Trideca001

Large planet level

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#40  Edited By Konohana

He should transcend large-planetary by now but you can literally scale Bleach anywhere.

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#41  Edited By NinjaRizer

He can destroy the Bleach cosmology, where Ichigo scales is where the cosmology scales.

So universal at the lowest.

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#42  Edited By MasterBuster666

He can destroy the Bleach cosmology, where Ichigo scales is where the cosmology scales.

So universal at the lowest.

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He can destroy the Bleach cosmology, where Ichigo scales is where the cosmology scales.

So universal at the lowest.

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#44  Edited By GreyTheJiren

You know the thread is dumb af when the lowest option is comically above the highest feat Ichigo scales to.

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Multi Planet but large planet lv by CV standards.

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He can destroy the Bleach cosmology

He can?

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@lucascosta: He doesn’t have range to. He upscales in AP to the stabilization of the 3 worlds via SK being absorbed by yhwach and ichigo killing yhwach.

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@ninjarizer said:

He can destroy the Bleach cosmology, where Ichigo scales is where the cosmology scales.

So universal at the lowest.

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@ninjarizer said:

He can destroy the Bleach cosmology

He can?

Yes, because he’s as powerful as SK Yhwach-who flexed his Reiatsu and damaged the cosmology.

Any Bleach God tier can destroy if not cause severe damage to the cosmology.

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There‘s no such thing as planet level Bleach God tiers. That scale doesn’t exist.

I’ll make it so clear why saying Bleach God tiers are planet level is canonical garbage through a different method.

Let’s start with actual substance-not conjecture.

Zanka no Tachi.

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Everyone forgets that Yama can destroy the entire planet and affected the entire planet instantly by blowing all of the moisture in the atmosphere of Soul Society away.

Yes, It’s over an extended period, but that means Yamamoto himself contains the TOTAL energy to destroy a planet inside him.

Now to Senjumaru. When she released her Bankai, Ganju said this:

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Meaning that a fraction of Senjumaru’s true power is greater than Bankai Yamamoto, who has enough energy inside him to destroy a planet.

A fraction of her power is greater than Bankai Yamamoto.

But the God tiers are planet level?🤣yeah man give me a break

There’s no planet level scale for Bleach God tiers-the planet level scale is for high tiers like Bankai Yamamoto. These characters are nothing to True Power Senjumaru and in turn they are nothing to even Almighty Yhwach, let ALONE SK Yhwach and EoS Ichigo.

Bankai Yamamoto threatens to destroy the planet.

God tiers threaten the entire cosmology.