In physical stats, are the MCU Super-soldiers closer to "badass normal" guys or are they closer to Spider-man?

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#1  Edited By normanale835

In the MCU, the rule of Super-soldiers seems to be "Stronger than non-powered humans, but weaker than Spider-Man," In the MCU, the rule for Super Soldiers seems to be "Stronger than non-powered humans, but weaker than Spider-Man," but in your opinion, which one are they closer to?

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#2  Edited By Greysentinel365

Badass normal dudes.

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#3  Edited By Nightmare20

Yep very much closer to Badass normals. Peak humans frequently are shown to be threats and can hold their own with super soldiers

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Guys, Cap beat Spidey in Civil War and gave him a black eye with a shield bash, with Tony outright confirming Steve was far above him at that point. Cap also beat the shit out of Iron Man, and Bucky almost beat him 1v1 too. Steve also pretty casually beat War Machine, breaking his weapon.

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@calclord said:

Guys, Cap beat Spidey in Civil War and gave him a black eye with a shield bash, with Tony outright confirming Steve was far above him at that point.

Yeah because of the difference in skill. The same movie makes it perfectly clear Peter is superior in brute strength by overpowering Bucky's metal arm which overpowered Steve earlier in the movie. Plus Peter explicitly unlocking his true strength in the homecoming climax.

Cap also beat the shit out of Iron Man,

Tony only lost because he had to fight both. He had them both dead to rights 1v1.

and Bucky almost beat him 1v1 too. Steve also pretty casually beat War Machine, breaking his weapon.

All he did to Rhodey was knock him down when he was purposely not using his actual arsenal to avoid killing everyone.

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#7  Edited By PlatinumChalice  Online

Obviously closer to humans. Super soldiers are typically 10 tonner, while spidey is at very least 300 tons.

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They're Closer To Spiderman Since Cap Can Take Spidey.

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@calclord said:

Guys, Cap beat Spidey in Civil War and gave him a black eye with a shield bash, with Tony outright confirming Steve was far above him at that point. Cap also beat the shit out of Iron Man, and Bucky almost beat him 1v1 too. Steve also pretty casually beat War Machine, breaking his weapon.

*in CW… half a dozen movies ago.. when he was 14.

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@calclord said:

Guys, Cap beat Spidey in Civil War and gave him a black eye with a shield bash, with Tony outright confirming Steve was far above him at that point.

Yeah because of the difference in skill. The same movie makes it perfectly clear Peter is superior in brute strength by overpowering Bucky's metal arm which overpowered Steve earlier in the movie. Plus Peter explicitly unlocking his true strength in the homecoming climax.

Cap also beat the shit out of Iron Man,

Tony only lost because he had to fight both. He had them both dead to rights 1v1.

and Bucky almost beat him 1v1 too. Steve also pretty casually beat War Machine, breaking his weapon.

All he did to Rhodey was knock him down when he was purposely not using his actual arsenal to avoid killing everyone.

- So If I Give You Skill Alone You Can Take Spidey?

- Spidey Catching Bucky's Arm Doesn't Translate To Beating Cap As Shown In Civil War. Tony Also Catch Bucky's Hit But Bucky Was Damaging Him.

- Spidey Unlocking His Power In Homecoming Is Merely A Fanfic. If I May Ask How Did He Unlocked It?

- Do You Think Humans You Believe Super Soldiers Are Closer To Can Kick War Machine Hard Enough To Damage His Armor?

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#11 Edgelord91  Online

@kevinforgod: skill, sufficient strength, and an indestructible shield established to let you hit outside your weight class against someone holding back who's never been in real fight? Yes. Light weights can and have beaten heavy weights in both real life and comics.

Yeah but Tony won and he never outright out muscled Bucky like Peter did.

Peter has explicitly only had his powers for few months and the warehouse scene was the first time he was put in a position he HAD to use his full strength which is outright confirmed. Tom Holland himself even Emphasizes how Peter didn't throw a punch in civil war or homecoming.

Cap's kick and shield throw didn't even scratch Rhodey's suit. He just broke his baton by landing on it

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#12 mykindofman  Online

I say above Spider-Man due to the fact that a group of Super Soldiers could protect the city from Sentry, Cap beating Spider-Man, going h2h with Bucky, etc.