3 eyed Juudara vs Current Boruto & Kawaki
Boruto can BFR Madara into another world
Kawaki can BFR Madara into another world
That’s how they deal with immortality just ring him out of bounds for the W
But in scaling they could put him down before BFR
Teenager spsm already took blows from kaguya who is stronger than 3 eyes juudara AP
Adult Spsm killed a kaguya lv enemy in the form of fused momo
Horn Jigen stomps two fused momo tiers in the form of adult Spsm Naruto and adult rinnegan sasuke
Code limiter unlocked is stronger than horn mode jigen who stomped two fused momo tiers
Boruto base is stronger than code limiter unlocked
Jura is stronger than code limiter unlocked and stomped him
Kawaki base is stronger and faster than base boruto
Kawaki karma mode is stronger and faster than base boruto
Juudara is a after thought by the time of TBV right now
I can understand it being a good fight if it was against Boruto, but Kawaki being there makes it badly in favour of the duo. Like 0% chance Madara wins.
No counter to IT, no counter for Limbo
Yet madara has zero chance....
Madara fold these kids....
Not only do they lack resistance to madara's strongest abilities... They have less durability, madara already hard counters shrinking with his doujutsu, uzuhiko can be negated by a pseudo jin with rinnegan, madara has that plus more, and it only works when borutos feat is planted, madara is a six paths user and flies all the time, he already knows of ftg and countered it (against tobirama and minato), he has higher stamina, more versatile and higher battle IQ and experience.
@theemperor95: IT won't work on otsutuski, otherwise you saying whenever otsutsuki plant godtrees, they put them selves under IT? they are all immune to IT same would apply to Boruto and kawaki here, just Like Hagoromo and Hamura were also Immune.
@theemperor95: IT won't work on otsutuski, otherwise you saying whenever otsutsuki plant godtrees, they put them selves under IT? they are all immune to IT same would apply to Boruto and kawaki here, just Like Hagoromo and Hamura were also Immune.
Nobody said anything about hamura being immune, no one established that IT can be resisted via anything but rinnegan, this is just you making up your headcanon bro.
And why will otsutsuki put themselves in IT, them draining planets does not require IT, IT is a special move used only by kaguya among the otsutsuki, it even explicitly mentions kaguya using her sharingan and byakugan powers to control the masses, neither momoshiki nor isshiki have sharingan powers,sothey do not even have the means to IT people, So please lets not start spreading misinformation here, especially when i am around.
@uchihaghost: No IT happens also when draining the Planet dry lol.
yea it does as it shows and implies that Hagoromo and Hamura can no-sell IT
IT is NOT A SPECIAL MOVE BY KAGUYA. kaguya was the only char or otutsuki who fused with godtree that's all.
It's not misinformation lmao.
@trideca001: we saw like 2 planets with god trees planted, its barren planets, and no victims... Also no rinnesharingan anywhere or moon with a rinnesharingan
You are operating with no statements and no feats bro, its clear they dont use IT
@uchihaghost: ofc that's the after effect of what happens after the planet is COMPLETELY DRAINED, which kaguya never did.
so that's not a defeater in anyway shape or form.
It's clear all special abilities and power are known by the otsutsuki by large with momo having knowledge of them.
Hamura is immune, Hagoromo is immune, same applies to Isshiki, Momoshiki, or any Otsutsuki no matter.
@trideca001: where did it say hamura was immune?? Dont tell me cuz he fought kaguya? Cuz naruto fought against madara and IT was used, he can very much be shielded by hags, so you have no proof hamura was immune
2. You said thats what the after effect is... Where are the roots?? Cuz surely the roots will be present considering the trees were planted.
3. Further proof is the factthat kaguya's god tree was massively bigger than allthe other trees which was stated to be an anomally, andthat her planet grew bigger than a particular size.
4.. You gave no proof whatsoever about what you just said, you have no statement or evidence to what you said.
@uchihaghost: Hamura and hagoromo were immune because IT was active well into when they were alive lmao. No hagoromo and Hamura never fought Kaguya herself, they fought her as the Juubi. No proof he was ever shielded or needed Hagoromo.
Yea that's the point Momoshiki's had done what it's needed to do which is drain the entire planet dry, while Kaguya's didn't. meaning it comes no where close especially since we know she ate a chakra fruit from an weaker time compared to Post-hagoromo's era's.
Kaguya's tree wasn't massively bigger Lmao. it's doesn't even drain the planet dry. The planet Never grew larger. The current era possesses far greater chakra than the people kaguya absorbed in the past.
I already gave more than enough proof and implied narrative than more than shows any random ostusuki no-sells IT, it's just looking for ways for it not to be true from you now.
@trideca001: madara does not need IT to beat these kids, make it Dual rinnegan madara and he still folds them with limbo, whatelse?? They can see/sense limbo??
Uchihaghost having the Worst opinions as always lol duo stomps foddara
Up until madara split their buttcheeks

Uchihaghost having the Worst opinions as always lol duo stomps foddara
@uchihaghost: i mean just via the fact i think kaguya can sense and possibly see them Limbo, already makes me extend the same to other otsutsuki's like Isshiki, momo.
Naruto(who can sense limbo) and sasuke(who can see limbo) were already putting the works on Juudara.
The very fact that otsutsuki power vastly exceed any ninja imitation should be clear.
@rdcdesmond: fused momo needs to be moved up a little, he’s stronger than Naruto and sasuke individually, he just couldn’t keep up with their teamwork according to the novel.
@manimalman: yea read that too in the novel, but there are counterarguments like naruto and sasuke being at 50% each.
also did you see some stuff about kaguya being from a kyatsume clan within the otsutsuki clan?
@uchihaghost: i mean just via the fact i think kaguya can sense and possibly see them Limbo, already makes me extend the same to other otsutsuki's like Isshiki, momo.
Naruto(who can sense limbo) and sasuke(who can see limbo) were already putting the works on Juudara.
The very fact that otsutsuki power vastly exceed any ninja imitation should be clear.
More BS and headcanon counters.... Kaguya can resist via methods (rinnegan rikudou senjutsu) so duo can counter when they have none, i guess everyone is immune to everything....
Whats next, hinata is immune to IT too cuz she has hamura chakra and hamura resisted it so she is immune...
Losing braincells 😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫
@uchihaghost: no Hamura is immune because he is biologically otsutsuki, Hinata is NOT it's not a hard concept man.
Kaguya has no known or shown methods to resist lmao, we just know she can via scaling above madara and being otustuski. Again kaguya doesn't have the rinnegan, no proof she has sixpaths powers either as that comes from hagoromo .
Kaguya's power is shinjutsu which is far superior.
@trideca001: I don’t think it changes to much since base momo KO’d a fresh healthy Naruto after breaking his and sasuke’s combined defence.
“kyatsume clan within the otsutsuki clan?”
Nah never heard of this, I assumed it was always just the main claim and the moon clan with its 2 branches.
@uchihaghost: no Hamura is immune because he is biologically otsutsuki, Hinata is NOT it's not a hard concept man.
Kaguya has no known or shown methods to resist lmao, we just know she can via scaling above madara and being otustuski. Again kaguya doesn't have the rinnegan, no proof she has sixpaths powers either as that comes from hagoromo .
Kaguya's power is shinjutsu which is far superior.
Yea i remember you said kaguya does not have rinnegan, funny how IT is reffered to as a rinnegan genjutsu....
Alright i'm done here
Anyways madara babyshakes, boruto almost died to a bd, tsb >>> bijuu dama, madara erases him while beating the shit out of kawaki with limbo....
@uchihaghost: wrong it only says the rinnegan can ward it or you need 2 rinnegan's and the Juubi to form that power to form a rinnesharingan on the forehead which madara did.
Kaguya has the sharingan powers and her own original powers that comes with the rinnesharingan, She DOES NOT POSSESS THE POWER OF THE RINNEGAN.
Stop trying to make things fit your own narrative lol.
@uchihaghost: kawaki glances and shrinks all 6 tsb, now all they just have to do is solo Madara which should be easy enough as they far oustat.
@uchihaghost: wrong it only says the rinnegan can ward it or you need 2 rinnegan's and the Juubi to form that power to form a rinnesharingan on the forehead which madara did.
Kaguya has the sharingan powers and her own original powers that comes with the rinnesharingan, She DOES NOT POSSESS THE POWER OF THE RINNEGAN.
Stop trying to make things fit your own narrative lol.

I guess sasuke does not know what he's talking about.
@uchihaghost: Again that Makes no sense as Sasuke can not cast it either NOR DISPEL IT BY HIMSELF, same for Madara( as he himself stated he need 2 requirements to accomplish that power the rinnegan and tentails)
Let me make it easier for you. to unlock the rinnesharingan. madara needed to obtain the powers of the rinnegan and the tentails to unlock a new doujutsu power(the rinnesharingan). Just like the Rinnegan is the natural evolution of the sharingan.
just because one is a natural evolution doesn't mean they would possess all the power's of their lower variants.
WHICH HAGOROMO HIMSELF LATER STATED SHE POSSESSED THE POWER OF THE SHARINGAN, RINNEGAN WAS NEVER MENTIONED. she has NO rinnegan powers, just the rinnesharingan which is a unique mutation that possess both the powers of the sharingan and it's own unique powers(amenominaka and hirasaka)
@trideca001: planting a godtree doesn't automatically activate IT?? It's a jutsu that needs to be activated and nothing says that any other otsutsuki can use it. Not sure what headcanon would make them immune. Nor were hagoromo and hamura said to be immune. We know hagoromo is because of his rinnegan but nothing suggests hamura is
@theemperor95: nope hagromo and hamura were alive and witnessed IT, SO we infact do know they were Immune.
It's might not be a jutsu, as it's something that happens when an otsutsuki fuses with a god-tree.
we know Obito was about to cast it through the Tree(godtree) itself alone not needing anythings else.
Otsutsuki have knowledge of all otsutsuki powers, meaning the likes of amenominaka, senrigan and others.
Kaguya wouldn't even need to fear momo or kinshiki with IT lmao especially since she also had an army of zetsu.
So yea pretty much any naruto debater knows Any otsutsuki no-sells IT.
@trideca001: no we don't lmao literally nothing says they are immune. Kaguya doesn't want her kids inside of IT so she could easily wake up hamura if she wanted to or just protected him when she casted it.
Again nothing states that otsutsuki have knowledge of each others abilities. Why are you making such baseless claims?
Army of zetsu were getting worked by KCM naruto clones. The fact that she wanted them for momo/kin just shows how fodder she thought they were. Also don't even put momo/kin in the same conversation as kaguya. They got worked by kages. They aren't worth edo madara let alone kaguya
@uchihaghost: Again that Makes no sense as Sasuke can not cast it either NOR DISPEL IT BY HIMSELF, same for Madara( as he himself stated he need 2 requirements to accomplish that power the rinnegan and tentails)
Let me make it easier for you. to unlock the rinnesharingan. madara needed to obtain the powers of the rinnegan and the tentails to unlock a new doujutsu power(the rinnesharingan). Just like the Rinnegan is the natural evolution of the sharingan.
just because one is a natural evolution doesn't mean they would possess all the power's of their lower variants.
WHICH HAGOROMO HIMSELF LATER STATED SHE POSSESSED THE POWER OF THE SHARINGAN, RINNEGAN WAS NEVER MENTIONED. she has NO rinnegan powers, just the rinnesharingan which is a unique mutation that possess both the powers of the sharingan and it's own unique powers(amenominaka and hirasaka)
Lol, its so sad and funny you don't know what rinnesharingan is all these years, last time i'm saying anything about it as well. The rinnesharingan is a doujutsu with both rinnegan and sharingan abilities combined in one, sasuke has a pseudo version of that thats why he can use the rinnegan and his sharingan abilities with it. I don't know why you being so dense about this lol
Even google knows this... Sasuke blatantly refer to IT as a rinnegan genjutsu, that should be more than clear enough, to take it further, kaguya use preta path, and naruto and sasuke were not using jutsu directly on kaguya because they know that the rinnegan absorbs jutsu

This is a basic thing, nothing confusing about it.
@theemperor95: no lmao, kaguya doesn't control who and who isn't under IT stop making up shit lol
Hamura and hagoromo were immune to IT.
Momoshiki has knowledge of all shinjutsu(special abilities of the otsutsuki clan, like amenominaka and senrigan)
Lmao bro it's not on your headcanon to try make shit up, afterall in bleach we were told adyneus used his god-like power to fight a huge meno's grande, things that should be fodder.
Momoshiki and kinshiki if they were so weak, shouldn't even require her to need an army of zetsu's. as could just wait and oneshot them with IT or her godlike powers lmao.
yea i am putting momo and kinshiki in that conversation because they are narratively. Both are setup as being a force greater than kaguya. Momo just destroys edo madara.
it's like saying aizen is fodder cause of his karakura town feats.
@uchihaghost: stop making shit up and reading fake shit from AI to create your own shitty headcanon man.
THE RINESHARINGAN IS A. STAND ALONE POWER POSSESSING THE SHARINGAN'S POWER'S AND IT'S OWN UNIQUE ONE'S.
it's NOT A RINNEGAN NOR DOES IT POSSESS THE POWERS OF ONE.
IT is not A RINNEGAN GENJUTSU, AS SASUKE CANNOT CAST IT EVEN WITH HIS RNNEGAN NOR MADARA. YOU NEED THE POWER OF TENTAILS AND THE RINNEGAN TO UNLOCK ANOTHER DOUJUTSU WHICH IS KAGUYA'S, JUST LIKE YOU ALSO NEED BOTH TO DISPEL IT TOO.
@trideca001: you lack basic reading comprehension skills man, you got to do something about that.. Who said sasuke has rinnesharingan? I said sasuke has a pseudo version of it and he can use both rinnegan and sharingan powers with it. Kaguya gave birth to Hags and hamura, one has rinnegan powers and one had byakugan powers. All those 2 originated from kaguya, its so simple to understand but seems so hard for others, oh welp maaayi.
@uchihaghost: no he can't there is a reason why madara has to switch between the rinnegan and sharingan during the war, they don't possess all the same abilities, learn to read man.
it doesn't matter where they originated from, all power originated from the otsutsuki. it's irrelevant
sharingan is a mutation and lesser derivations, kaguya does NOT POSSESS THE POWER OF THE RINNEGAN.
a future power can be a derivation of an otsutsuki power, it doesn't mean that otsutsuki can use or possess that power too.
@trideca001: no he can't there is a reason why madara has to switch between the rinnegan and sharingan during the war, they don't possess all the same abilities, learn to read man.
This is the exact reason why i said you lacked basic reading comprehension.. Where in my post did i say madara's rinnegan is the rinnesharingan??? Its literally called RINNE-SHARINGAN for crying out loud... Oh my God. You shouldn't be allowed to make decisions

@uchihaghost: you clealry can't read or are trolling cause you need to stop with this kiddy shit man.
NO-WHERE ON ANY SITE WILL ANYONE TELL YOU KAGUYA HAS RINNEGAN POWER'S, IT'S ME WASTING MY TIME DEBATING THIS SHIT WITH YOU WHEN IT'S ALREADY KNOWN.
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the story knows she doesn't possess the powers of the rinnegan either and YEA JUST BECAUSE IT'S NAMED RINNESHARINGAN DOESN'T MEAN IT POSSESSES THE POWER OF THE RINNEGAN TOO, that's a naming fallacy.
it's like me saying planetary rasengan has the power of a planet because of it's Name lmao? like what?
This guy does not even know what he's watching, dude watches it in a language he can't speak and turns off the subtitles. No wonder you keep spewing nonsense, from this to momo absorbs gravity abilities (when his ass was put in one and he had to use a jutsu to break out) but it flew over his head cuz of course we got to wank the new villains.
@uchihaghost: imagine if you were doing this to one piece and saying no villian can surpass kaido, or bleach No villian can surpass aizen, or Toriko no villian can surpass four beast, or yu yu hakusho no villian can surpass toguro, or fairy tail no villian can surpass acnologia, or dragonball no villian can surpass cell. Characters and old villians get surpassed all the time doesn’t matter if you have a preference or they are your fav or not. Simply how battle shounen work especially with multi timeskips and statements. You ignore canon statements uplifting other villians power lv than your depiction. You ignore how base Naruto is even stronger than the rest of kages.
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