Respect Shang Chi (MCU) *Unfinished*

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Gear

Dragon Scale Armor

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Dragon Scale Staff

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The Ten Rings

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Feats with the Ten Rings + Ta Lo Powers

Strength

Does a 5-ring leg swing that creates a shockwave and cracks the ground beneath them

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Uses 5 rings like a whip and shakes the ground with each clash against Wenwu

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Prevents the Dweller in Darkness from pulling his sister away with one arm

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Fires all ten rings into the DND's mouth creating a large shockwave

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Spins and charges the Ten Rings inside DND's chest and creates a gigantic explosion that blows DND into small chunks and vaporizes his minions. It was also strong enough to be felt throughout the universe and create a pulse in the timeline (Confirmed on screen)

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Durability

Wenwu blocks his leg a pushes him and the rings away, creating a shockwave in the process

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Tanks all 5 rings to chest and creates a huge shockwave that sends him flying into the ground and creating another shockwave. (he gets back up with control over all 10 rings)

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Speed

Dodges the 5 rings flying up from underground

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Agility

Uses the ten rings as platforms and also uses them to swing up as he makes his way to the mouth of DND

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Feats with Ta Lo Powers Only

Strength

Bats away all ten rings with his Dragon Scale staff

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Sends Wenwu flying backwards with a kick

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Durability

Kicked in the face by Wenwu

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Sent flying back from a Ten Ring push from Wenwu that creates a shockwave and tanks it

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Takes a 5 ring elbow to the face that creates a shockwave, then gets punched in the chest hard enough to send him flying off screen

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Gets hit in the stomach with 5 rings, then gets punched hard enough to create a shockwave that sends him flying in the distance.

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Speed

Guides the 5 rings that Wenwu threw at him around his body

Dodges one ring fired off Wenwu's arm

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Bats away all Ten rings the create shockwaves when fired off Wenwu's arms

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Combat

Fights against Wenwu's armored warriors while using the Dragon Scale staff

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Fights against Wenwu while he's using the Ten Rings

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Uses his mother's technique to take control of guide and take control of the rings

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Feats without the Rings or Ta Lo Powers

Strength

Restrains Razor Fist

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Knocks guy off his feet with an elbow to the chest

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Punches a guy in the gut and sends him to the ground

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Punches a guy through a bus window

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Durability

Kicked in the face by Death Dealer and he's fine

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Combat

Trained to be a killer since he was a child.

Fight with Razor Fist and 4 other ninjas without being hit

Fights his angry sister (Xialing) while holding back

Almost kills Death Dealer (Wenwu's best ninja) before his dad stopped him

Speed

jumps out of the way of an explosive device

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Ten Rings Scaling

Statements (Found by various CV users)

[ Power ]

(found by D4B below)

Rings give strength of a God.

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Rings become "part of the wearer, empowering them with mystical powers"

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Stalemate Spidey.

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2573246/shang-chi-vs-spider-man-marvel-fight-who-would-win

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Rings enhance strength and dura.

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The staff and armor are magical from dragon materials.

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(Found by Rajj below)

Heimdall stated the Ten Rings had the power to destroy even a god. But All-Father Odin is the king of gods!

Conclusion

He gets lowballed a lot for some reason

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Ain’t no way the ten rings are above Stormbreaker

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#3 death4bunnies  Moderator

Neat.. I have a few things for you.

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Rings give strength of a God.

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Rings become "part of the wearer, empowering them with mystical powers"

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Stalemate Spidey.

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2573246/shang-chi-vs-spider-man-marvel-fight-who-would-win

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I think I have one more that says enhanced strength.. from the character encyclopedia.. I’ll see if I can dig it up.

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#4 death4bunnies  Moderator

Ahh here is that other one.

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Rings enhance strength and dura.

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@death4bunnies: I appreciate it a lot! I'll make sure to add these in when I get back to my laptop.

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#6 death4bunnies  Moderator

@justneedhelp:

Ofc dude.. and we appreciate your RTs… it’s a public service you should be thanked for.

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@death4bunnies: eh, no thanks is needed. I just do it for fun and to remind myself of their feats.

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@death4bunnies: I don’t think his durability is similar levels to his strength or anywhere near it after thinking about it seems like glass canon

like Shang chi struck him with the staff it put him down for a little depowered hela hurt him by slamming him on a table etc

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#9  Edited By justneedhelp

@darkphantom9895: It's a dragon scale staff and their weapons were able to kill an intangible creature. I think it's safe to say it's magical since it could also harm the Dweller in Darkness. You can see it glow when strikes people.

Also that showing with hela doesn't compare to all of his other durability feats which are better. One bad showing doesn't discard every other. Plus in the same episode he was taking hits from Odin. I'd say it's actually good.

He should also scale to Shang Chi's durability feats when they both have 5 rings

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@justneedhelp:

It's a dragon scale staff and their weapons were able to kill an intangible creature. I think it's safe to say it's magical since it could also harm the Dweller in Darkness. You can see it glow when strikes people.

pretty sure dragon scale is durability not ap as it’s just stated to protect agains untold mystical threats and it’s still cap by the guy swinging it so Shang chi who isn’t the level of the ten rings

Also that showing with hela doesn't compare to all of his other durability feats which are better. One bad showing doesn't discard every other. Plus in the same episode he was taking hits from Odin. I'd say it's actually good.

did he ? I thought he blocked everything with the rings I still think his durability might be increased but not = to his strength like wasn’t he even blocking arrows at the beginning of the film

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#11  Edited By death4bunnies  Moderator

@darkphantom9895:

The staff and armor are magical from dragon materials.

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In the movie both Shang and his dad take hits from the rings.. and his dad punches that mountain with his fist. .. looks like above human dura to me.

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@darkphantom9895: first comment: d4b answered this below

Second Comment: if you look at the section with the Ten rings. Wewu would scale to the last durability feat. That's the most we could say since Shang Chi only had 5 rings and again, he also took energy and physical attacks from Odin who was to crush Mjolnir.

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@death4bunnies: but what if the rings only increase arm strength and durability not the rest of his body which would explain why he gets hurt by things like de powered hela

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#16  Edited By ShockMcuWaxIf
@darkphantom9895 said:

@justneedhelp:

did he ? I thought he blocked everything with the rings I still think his durability might be increased but not = to his strength like wasn’t he even blocking arrows at the beginning of the film

The arrows feat is also a combat speed feat. It is true it could imply it could hurt him but we could also argue it was to protect his horse and it look cooler.

Plus if we go by MCU logic and standard? We have feats of Thor dodging a part of a plane by sliding(when fighting Hulk) and blocking Chitauri shots(with Steve, before he throw away a car) in Avengers 1. So would the wing plane or blasts hurt and kill Thor?

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@justneedhelp: should we add that dragon armors/weapons and Ta Lo magic bestowed the strength to combat threats of untold mystical power? Which explained Shang chi being able to block and deflect the rings.

And that Wenwu mentioned Ta Lo people practice a martial arts style from the gods= Ta Lo magic. (This is odd that he said gods when the only “ god“ we saw is the great protector though). Yeah I reminder also responding that same things for your Ying li threat.

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#18  Edited By ShockMcuWaxIf
@darkphantom9895 said:

@death4bunnies: I don’t think his durability is similar levels to his strength or anywhere near it after thinking about it seems like glass canon

like Shang chi struck him with the staff it put him down for a little depowered hela hurt him by slamming him on a table etc

@darkphantom9895 said:

@death4bunnies: but what if the rings only increase arm strength and durability not the rest of his body which would explain why he gets hurt by things like de powered hela

I don’t think Wenwu got hurt. It was supposed to be funny. Have you seen and do you remember how Thor got his face slapped by extremely weak human Jane in Dark World?

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@darkphantom9895: It's a dragon scale staff and their weapons were able to kill an intangible creature. I think it's safe to say it's magical since it could also harm the Dweller in Darkness. You can see it glow when strikes people.

Also that showing with hela doesn't compare to all of his other durability feats which are better. One bad showing doesn't discard every other. Plus in the same episode he was taking hits from Odin. I'd say it's actually good.

He should also scale to Shang Chi's durability feats when they both have 5 rings

Yeah it is called outliers or low showing feats. Everyone has it. From Spidey to Hulk and Thor. Remind viewers that Thor has his famous ball k.o and “deadly electric tech” feats in Ragnarok.

But Yes, I understand why for some it is hard to gauge if the Rings users can walk it off just fine against multiples pound punch, a la Ironman vs Hulk”go to sleep, got to sleep“. Or when Hulk did the same to Thor in the arena before awakening. Since they haven’t shown having “those kind of feats” yet.

We have to wait and see if Shang chi gets more insane and “obvious” durability feats later on. Even if he did, we could probably attribute it all to his dragon scale armor mystical protection anyway. We really need to wait and see.

But so far, it is fair to said that when Wenwu punched the mountain dragon gates scales, we got Newton's Third Law, that every single action has an equal and opposite reaction. Meaning, if you punch with X AP, your body must be strong enough to withstand the recoil of said punch and to not shatter completely.

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#19 death4bunnies  Moderator

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I don’t understand how these aren’t obviously great durability feats.

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I mean yeah the dragon scale armor too with that one^
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But your right hitting the dragon scale gate is another good example.

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Also I just noticed occasionally you can see the magic glow under thier skin.

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Like Mandarins hand there^

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@death4bunnies:

I don’t understand how these aren’t obviously great durability feats.

for the dragon armor cause we already know armor can take a ring

I mean yeah the dragon scale armor too with that one^

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But your right hitting the dragon scale gate is another good example.

what if the rings only amp the parts they are on which would explain his hand not breaking when punching the gate and the blue glow under that part of the skin but not his entire body

and also explain why de power hela could ko him for a littl

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@death4bunnies:

and also explain why de power hela could ko him for a littl

Bro have you read my comments above? Let’s copy paste here again.

Wenwu did not get hurt by depower Hela. It was supposed to be a funny scene. And him letting her go intentionally.

Have you seen and do you remember how Thor got his face slapped by extremely weak human Jane in Dark World?

It is called outliers or low showing feats. Everyone has it. From Spidey to Hulk and Thor. Remind viewers that Thor has his famous ball k.o and “deadly electric tech” feats in Ragnarok.

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#23  Edited By ShockMcuWaxIf
@death4bunnies said:

@shockmcuwaxif:

I don’t understand how these aren’t obviously great durability feats.

I mean yeah the dragon scale armor too with that one^

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But your right hitting the dragon scale gate is another good example.

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Also I just noticed occasionally you can see the magic glow under thier skin.

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Like Mandarins hand there^

I am with you on that actually @death4bunnies but apparently some people want to see Shang chi getting "his head" pound punch by Ironman, Hulk or Thor to see if he could walk it off fine against them. One thing for sure Shang chi tanks just fine super soldier punches and feats. All the Rings users feats are way above SSS. And it is obvious for me that The Rings users are pretty much like Gorr when he is holding the Necrosword.

We have to wait and see if Shang chi “even” gets more durability feats later on. Even if he did, (probably for some) they would probably attribute it all to his dragon scale armor mystical protection or the parts covered by the Rings. It would really be depending of how his fights choreography against the “ others” are going to look like.

Anyway it is obviously that the dragon scales armor protected magically the uncovered members of Shang chi or else he would have been decapitated, his arms, legs and head during the Wenwu split lac punch feat.

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@justneedhelp: should we add

that dragon armors/weapons and Ta Lo magic bestowed the strength to combat threats of untold mystical power? Which explained Shang chi being able to block and deflect the rings.

And that Wenwu mentioned Ta Lo people practice a martial arts style from the gods= Ta Lo magic. (This is odd that he said gods when the only “ god“ we saw is the great protector though). Yeah I reminder also responding that same things for your Ying li threat.

I'll have to try and find the scenes and add them. Thank you for reminding me about those statements.

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@shockmcuwaxif: Wenwu doesn’t have durability feats all the hits he takes he blocks with the rings he even blocked arrows so again I don’t think his durability is that high

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#26  Edited By ShockMcuWaxIf
@darkphantom9895 said:

@shockmcuwaxif: Wenwu doesn’t have durability feats all the hits he takes he blocks with the rings he even blocked arrows so again I don’t think his durability is that high

Yeah I understand if you felt that way for Wenwu. But; Well Wenwu leapt ,in one jump, across a 2km lake and his legs, body was intact on impact. Do you think you can bring and add that feats @24justneedhelp?

Newton's Third Law, that every single action has an equal and opposite reaction. Meaning, if you punch with X AP, your body must be strong enough to withstand the recoil of said punch and to not shatter completely

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Again for you @darkphantom9895

The arrows feat is also a combat speed feat. It is true it could imply it could hurt him but we could also argue it was to protect his horse and it look cooler.

If we go by MCU logic and standard? We have feats of Thor dodging a part of a plane by sliding(when fighting Hulk) and blocking Chitauri shots(with Steve, before he throw away a car) in Avengers 1. So would the wing plane or blasts hurt and kill Thor? Why did Thor dodged a human plane piece and blocked chitauri shots?

So what do you think?

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I'll have to try and find the scenes and add them. Thank you for reminding me about those statements.

Is this the statement you're looking for?

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Good work so far, look forward to the completion.

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@thesubline: I appreciate it. I'll make sure to add it into the RT.

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@justneedhelp: Are you still planning on finishing this? Not trying to be pushy or anything, just wondering.

Also, people like to say that Shang's airbending only works in Ta Lo, but we literally see Shang's mother use it in China at the start of the film, and Hela uses it in China in What If. Just thought I'd point that out.

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@calclord: completely forgot about it. I'll add in the rest today.

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