Respect Loki, God of Stories (MCU)

The Second Son of Asgard

Note:

The timelines do contain the universes. Here is clean visual proof in Season 1. Note the black holes that bind them at time's beginning and ending, and reconcile this with the spaghettification (as in, what happens when a black hole crushes you) that happens in season 2.

Strength

Loki pulls the timelines with his bear hands, and holds the Multiverse together in perpetuity.

Durability

The Temporal Loom weaves the timeline from raw time and contains its great energies. The existence of the multiverse overloaded the Loom, but HWR Kang reveals that the Temporal Loom destroys every timeline in the Multiverse to preserve the Sacred Timeline. The explosion is the energy of an infinite expansion of timelines unleashed destructively that destroys the Multiverse on-screen, and Loki tanked it.

Loki repeated this feat tens of thousands of times, as he lived through the same day for centuries on end to learn everything he could about time-related science and engineering.

Magic

Loki destroys the Loom and tears the entire Multiverse asunder with the force of his magic, killing every single timeline in the process.

Loki forges the glorious Yggdrasil, the World Tree, the Tree of Life, restoring the timelines and creating a new Multiverse. This is the same tree shown in Spider-Verse, the same tree in 616 Marvel as well.

The proof of Loki's influence on the worlds can be seen in the new TVA, in MoM, in Spider-Verse, etc.

Time Manipulation

Loki's time manipulation is mightier than that of the Time Stone itself. Aye, the stone that bound the Dread Dormammu and his Dark Dimension, that mighty artifact of Agamotto's sight is nothing, less than nothing to the power of the trickster god.

This is the official explanation about how his time travel works - the time-slip.

When Loki masters it, he rewinds the destruction of the multiverse.

And he does this so many times ~ Marvel.com will suffice over the montage for now.

The distinct thing is that Loki is actually able to alter the timestream, which is broken powerful considering the MCU timeline has a strong firmament fortified by absolute points and nexus events that prevent the original timeline from being changed.

At some point, he also learned from the Kang variant known as He-Who-Remains.

From this, Loki mastered the power to freeze time. This power functions even at the End of Time, and it works even when the very timeline itself is destroyed. He can bring people out of his time freeze as well.

I always knew iKoL was TOAA

Well done.

Ahhhh hes so powerful it was done so well.

Glorious!!!

Good thread.

MCU Loki finally getting the respect he deserves. Remember when people were dunking on him, saying he was sub-super soldier fodder? Wonder were are those people now?

Seems like your blackhole-level Loki arguments don't even come close to his full potential now!!

MCU Loki is probably the most solid complex multiversal in any fiction due to the quantity and clarity of the feats that are on screen.

Nice one... I supposed you didn't add the ability to teleport hismelf and others, well he did that before even mastering his time manipulation

Yeah that's just Loki as he's always been AFAIK. I think it might be said on Marvel.com as well. Other thing I noticed was shadow clones

Fastest power growth I've ever seen ngl

@rajjarsalt: so did he like inadvertly reboot the mcu? And if so or not I wonder if he is the catalyst in the secret wars movie that is rumored to reboot the mcu?

Technically this is yes and no

By blowing up the Loom and destroying the multiverse as per Kang cosmology, and by creating a new one in the form of Yggdrasil (Norse Cosmology), he did.

But by the nature of timey wimey shenanigans, it has already been like that. Spider-Verse, which includes NWH, rises from a multiverse tree, a tree explicitly confirmed by the filmmakers to model the tree shown elsewhere in Marvel media. And NWH only happens because of the post Loki events. Same goes for MoM. Though it gets even messier when you consider that Spider-Verse includes Marvel Comics.

Dunno if it was inadvertently. He was all about changing things up.

I honestly doubt we’ll ever see this Loki again he’s just meant to be the one who saved the multiverse and stay there for ever

Well IIRC the director was talking about him reuniting with Thor so

Naw.. this is just the beginning of the war.

@death4bunnies: the war that doesn’t include him I don’t even think Loki can even leave that chair he’s supposed to stay there for eternity

@rajjarsalt: yeah not that Loki tho it would be another one to reunite with Thor

Holy shit man that's brilliant, so if hes responsible for all the multiverse shinangans we've seen so far when does this show take place (chronologically speaking) in the MCU, I plan on doing a full mcu marathon soon prior to watching the marvels?

Chronologically It starts in Phase 1, close to A1's ending. Worth noting that Kang Council and TVA management can't possibly exist side by side

I have the Spider-Verse and NWH statements.

It’s all connected.

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And in answer to your question… when you watch in order .. I think any time after EG is fine.. remember when the EG avengers travel back to the battle of New York? The show sorta picks up there.

Spoilers below.

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Most of it is outside of time tho so time gets funny like it’s all happening at once for Kang.. kinda.

Think of time outside of time as it’s own timeline.. this is how it’s shown in the new timeline book.. it has its own line completely outside everything else.. so we will look at time like we are sitting on the throne at the end of time.

Kangs clean timeline .. when it was perfect… Raimi Verse, all What Ifs, Xmen movies, etc etc.. we not allowed to exist they were pruned immediately.

Then Sylvie kills Kang and the branches stop being pruned.

This leads to Raimi verse expanding.. The X-Men movies.. etc etc…

Then Incursions start happening.

Bing bang boom.. the multiverse can not sustain like this.. its a war everyone trying to survive.. kangs running amok…NWH happens… MOM happens..like that dark strange and his incursions.. also what ifs happen ….these were all pruned possibilities before but now they are growing infinitely without anyone to stop them..it must have a loom or a TVA to prune and control its infinitely branching timeline or else incursions and war and death.

So the script says Loki lets Kang win, they go back to Scared Timeline.. “save who they can”… that happened over and over again.. kinda like Neo in the Matrix …Loki always made the choice to keep the status quo… Until now…this time Loki makes a different choice.

Then we get God of Stories.. he breaks the loom and grabs the dying timelines and weaves them into a tree that seems to sustain (for now)… we are getting a new multiversal war, but this time the idea is Loki is writing the script and Kang is gonna have to find work arounds…The TVA is looking for Kangs and they get a alert about Quantumania Kang but Mobius says Antman took care of it.. so we are right there…war is comming but hopefully this time under the guidance of Loki.

Also TVA now calls timelines realms, kinda getting Norse with it under Lokis control.

Naw .. war is coming, the new TVA is watching for Kangs… this isn’t the end of Lokis story nor the fight for that throne.. he still has a big part to play I think.

Loki doesn’t seem like god of stories more like god of time do we have an official name for him yet

It's because he said he would rewrite the story

And he did, 616 God of Stories for all that narrative-based reality warping could never do something like this

@death4bunnies: I mean, Vultron's "multiverse soup feat" involves him blowing through Star Wars and then Nidavellir, no?

@death4bunnies: That tree looks so beautiful.

Based thread!, Glorious for our Prince of Asgard, Rightful heir of Jotunheim, Odinson and for The God of Stories 💚💚💚

Loki use magic hax to turn energy timelines (smaller than a car) into spaghetti (no energy) branches that he can pull in a space with gravity. Those spaghetti branches weight how much exactly to quantify this feat?

No.. I mean just no.. ^^ this was a terrible description of the feat.

Loki used TK to bust the time loom, he didn’t turn them into spaghetti... but they did start dying once unbound from the loom… and he used magic to give them life.

Anyways quantification …there are infinite number of timelines.. OB and Timley made this clear, it’s an infinite scaling problem all their knowledge can’t account for ... we see Loki has to pull on them so they take energy to move you can see him struggle a bit on the steps…, even if they weigh almost nothing that’s still infinite… think …if they weigh 1 pound that’s infinite pounds, if they weight 1 gram that’s still infinite weight.

Loki's ability to dismantle and physically grasp the multiverse itself within the TVA loom is not a real feat that happened in the last episode. As evidenced, Loki actively manipulated and remove the interconnected rings that uphold the integrity of the multiverse, expediting the process and resulting in timelines that resemble tangled spaghetti branches, all confined within a room subject to gravitational forces. That there is a presence of gravitational physics in the room suggests that the previous branches, compose of energy, are now weightlessness, means that he is not holding the multiverse in his hands literally. Loki's hax magic allowed him to effortlessly maintain an infinite number of universes. This feat doesn't directly affect Loki's ability to cause damage or withstand it. Loki wasn't withstanding an explosion of the multiverse as the TVA building and human characters were also affected, lacking multiversal durability. It meant the initial explosion to erase all other timelines except for the prime timeline. They pulled Loki outside of time with the time slip power process the first time Mobius went through the bridge to save Loki. Loki is unaffected by the time reset as he exist outside of time.

@rajjarsalt said:

The Second Son of Asgard

Note: Yes, the timelines do contain the universes, this was shown in Season 1 and Quantumania.

Strength

Loki pulls the timelines with his bear hands, and holds the Multiverse together in perpetuity.

Durability

The Temporal Loom weaves the timeline from raw time and contains its great energies. The existence of the multiverse overloaded the Loom, but HWR Kang reveals that the Temporal Loom destroys every timeline in the Multiverse to preserve the Sacred Timeline. The explosion is the energy of an infinite expansion of timelines unleashed destructively that destroys the Multiverse on-screen, and Loki tanked it.

Loki repeated this feat tens of thousands of times, as he lived through the same day for centuries on end to learn everything he could about time-related science and engineering.

Magic

Loki destroys the Loom and tears the entire Multiverse asunder with the force of his magic, killing every single timeline in the process.

Loki forges the glorious Yggdrasil, the World Tree, the Tree of Life, restoring the timelines and creating a new Multiverse. This is the same tree shown in Spider-Verse, the same tree in 616 Marvel as well.

Time Manipulation

Loki's time manipulation is mightier than that of the Time Stone itself. Aye, the stone that bound the Dread Dormammu and his Dark Dimension, that mighty artifact of Agamotto's sight is nothing, less than nothing to the power of the trickster god.

This is the official explanation about how his time travel works - the time-slip.

When Loki masters it, he rewinds the destruction of the multiverse.

And he does this so many times ~ Marvel.com will suffice over the montage for now.

The distinct thing is that Loki is actually able to alter the timestream, which is broken powerful considering the MCU timeline has a strong firmament fortified by absolute points and nexus events that prevent the original timeline from being changed.

At some point, he also learned from the Kang variant known as He-Who-Remains.

From this, Loki mastered the power to freeze time. This power functions even at the End of Time, and it works even when the very timeline itself is destroyed. He can bring people out of his time freeze as well.

In that final scene, Loki tells Sylvi that he pulled her ouside of time. He didn't allow her to move in freeze time.

More cope and lowball...

Great RT. It's time to for respect to respect Loki

Lol you can actually see Loki using TP to move the rings of the loom farther from each other. Only a dumb person will be blind by wank.

@ryuuzakiscorpio: lmao you can argue all you want against the truth right in your face. It's not going to change a thing. The cope is strong here.

The amount of people coping and are already trying to downplay lokis feats is actually funny🤣

Yeah, I saw Loki use TP to rip the loom rings apart in the same way he use TP to open the doors prior to that scene. It doesn't change a single thing.

Never would I thought that Loki can have the clearest cut multiversal feat and people will still argue against it

There is no argument against a feat that doesn't exist. Loki took out the loom rings with TP and the branches turn to spaghetti like they have always been doing prior to Loki controlling the Time Slipping ability. People so hungry to wank these characters that they were blind by the "come on, do it, prove everyone wrong, and me right, go on do the feat, Loki, come on," and lost all rationality. Examine the "Feat" again. There is no feat.

The only feat here, is Loki keeping "a life" an infinite amount of universes through hax magic. Is this a multiversal hax magic? Not really. Loki had to be there physically and hold the physical spaghetti branches with his own hands in that specific space. This feat is useless in combat threads as this doesn't apply to AP or durability and Loki has no feats of been able to do this to any other universe outside the MCU because he has to be physically there. By the end of the episode, again this feat is not really a feat. Why? How much do those spaghetti branches weight? "Infinite weight?" Source? There are an "infinite amount" of timeliness. There was no statement that each timeline is "infinite" by themselves. Loki was walking on a plane that has gravity which means those branches had no weight to them at all. I would need a source for the branches weight. Smh

So is Loki a god that now resides away from everyone else in the show and acts as a god that governs timelines?

I’m actually really impressed and I’m going to probably watch the second season because the first one was amazing.

@rajjarsalt:

You missed his best feats…Smdh

Raj!!! He recreated the TVA in his image!!

@death4bunnies: @rajjarsalt: thanks for the information guys :) . This is just amazing loki in just a couple episodes has become the top dog in live action comics.

@death4bunnies: @rajjarsalt:

Although I'm not 100% sure. He did say this on jimmy fallon so now I'm wondering if the MCU is retiring the Loki characters 🤨

good rt, I didn't know he became so powerful

@ryuuzakiscorpio: dude stop crying

@ryuuzakiscorpio: I'll address this here.

The timeline is so difficult to move that Dormammu himself, a being who moved universes many times, could not move it. He was helpless and trapped when Dr Strange used the Time Stone to place strands of TIME around the Dark Dimension.

Moreover, the timelines are bound by the "multiversal black holes" that were being referred around the time of Episode 1 being released. They are bound by one black hole at the beginning, circa Big Bang, and another black hole at the end, the Void at the End of Time. You didn't really think the Temporal Loom was just some fodder machine, did you? There is cosmic strength behind its engineering. Once the timeline are unbound, everything goes spaghetti, as if being crushed by multiversal black hole.

Consider this matter settled.

@death4bunnies said:

@death4bunnies said:

@rajjarsalt:

You missed his best feats…Smdh

Raj!!! He recreated the TVA in his image!!

To quote some wise words "But to look beyond the glory is the hardest part, For a hero's strength is measured by his heart" - Herucles Go The Distance by Michael Bolton

Best Boy Loki really climbing to become everyone's favourite mcu character, Frigga and Odin would be so proud.

@chronicplane said:

@death4bunnies said:

@death4bunnies said:

@rajjarsalt:

You missed his best feats…Smdh

Raj!!! He recreated the TVA in his image!!

To quote some wise words "But to look beyond the glory is the hardest part, For a hero's strength is measured by his heart" - Herucles Go The Distance by Michael Bolton

Best Boy Loki really climbing to become everyone's favourite mcu character, Frigga and Odin would be so proud.

BASED

These feats do not look really impressive at all but i guess comicvine entered phase called: Lore bullshit >>>>> everything ignoring 100x more antifeats.

I am pretty sure next season (or show will be cancelled because show is dumpsterfire flop) Loki will be awfull jobber for plot reasons. Just like Vultron became ass jobber to make Clowns of the multiverse stand any slightest chance.

@rjr said:

@death4bunnies: @rajjarsalt:

Although I'm not 100% sure. He did say this on jimmy fallon so now I'm wondering if the MCU is retiring the Loki characters 🤨

Good for him. Time to end this dumpsterfire franchise

Seems salty ngl...its just a rt.

Unbelievable people are still trying to debunk or lowball loki