Raditz Durability Feat More Impressive Than You Think

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As you can clearly see. Piccolo only used one hand to destroy the moon, but against Raditz he used both for even more firepower behind. And you see Piccolo screaming his longs out more against Raditz.

Meaning the blast against Raditz is more powerful than the one against the moon.

My goat Raditz keeps winning

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Wrong, the version of Piccolo that killed Radizt was weaker and injured and used two fingers while the one that destroyed the moon was even exhausted afterwards despite being in a healthy physical shape before he destroyed the moon.

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#4  Edited By FickFickFire

@jimohkolawol10: What are you talking about? Piccolo wasn't injured or weaker his fight against Goku happened 5 years ago. And Piccolo after the blast fell to his knees while the Piccolo destroyed the moon stood up.

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#6  Edited By chatogpt

That's an enormous stretch to assume that, because he used the same technique, he used it with the same power.

In the beginning, Roshi used his Kamehameha to destroy the Moon but he also destroyed Chichi's Castle with it. We don't assume that the Castle is as hard to destroy as the Moon, we assume that the Kamehameha was weaker.

Obvious wank here.

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@fickfickfire: The Piccolo that destroyed the moon had a bit higher of a power level so I think it's unquantifiable. Raditz should easily have more than moon level durability though.

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#8  Edited By FickFickFire

@alextheboss: That's actually false. Piccolo only trained after he destroyed the moon during that night. Than Bulma states his PL and it only rose by 7 points not even 1%. So it's quantifiable. Also you said higher than moon level durability. Do you mean moon+ or small planet level durability?

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@fickfickfire: Piccolo's weighted power level was read before he blew up the moon and it was higher than when Raditz read it, meaning he got slightly stronger, maybe from the Raditz fight or he trained off screen. All we know is Raditz is considerably more durable than our moon. I would call him large moon or moon+ I guess. Planet level start at a power level of 10,000.

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#10  Edited By FickFickFire
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@alextheboss: No, I mean Piccolo's power level increase happened, after he destroyed the moon and he clearly stated in the manga and even DB Kakarot:

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Lastly Piccolo destroyed the moon at night and two panels later it shows evening at Bulma's location not far Piccolo's location showin

g Piccolo must have trained during that night as he clearly stated he hasn't yet and after the night it rose by 7 points.

I think it's clear.

Also doesn't it actually say "if" instead of with a power level of 10,000 is planet level?

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#11  Edited By RDCDesmond  Online

I always thought it was the same technique and force he attacked raditz with that he destroyed the moon with. I don’t think two hands is really relevant to say “this attack was 2 x stronger” than the one that blew up moon. Gohan killed cell with one arm. Goku almost killed frieza with a one arm blast. Special beam cannon focuses energy in one arm / hand.

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@chatogpt: maybe your baiting but why would piccolo use a weaker blast that didn't even affect raditz?

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#14  Edited By BeyondDao

@chatogpt: they can control the destructive power of their techniques without losing its ap. Its called ki control. A much stronger vegeta basically detonated all the power in his body and didnt even cause an aoe comparable to the moon. I feel like this is bait.

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@beyonddao:

Stop calling bait...

Ki control is the amount of Ki they can put in a technique. They don't necessarily use everything at full power.

That's so basic to understand....

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@chatogpt: frieza survives a literal planet exploding on his body, but apparently to you he got vaped by a technique that wasn’t planetary in ap?

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@chatogpt: its not tho? It’s literally an example of ki control.

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@beyonddao:

A character being caught off panel in an explosion has nothing to do with ki control

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@chatogpt: And you told me to stop calling this bait. Maybe engage with the comparison. Planet explodes = planetary dc/energy output. Character survives said explosion whilst on the planet = planetary durability. Another character vapes said character without causing planet to explode = planetary ap.

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@beyonddao: Dude, I don't care about your reasoning.
We are talking about Piccolo using a technique, DB characters can vary the energy output, exactly how anyone can punch softer or harder.
Period.

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@chatogpt: Piccolo used the same attack at max power. Cope and seeth.

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#23  Edited By chatogpt
@fickfickfire said:

@chatogpt: Piccolo used the same attack at max power. Cope and seeth.

Unlikely. LMAO

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Who do you expect to believe your bullshit when Raditz himself, who's far more powerful than both Piccolo and Goku, doesn't destroy the Earth with his blasts....

"Cope and seethe" I guess ?

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@chatogpt:The very same fight debunks your whole argument. Roshi with a power level of 180 can bust the moon.

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Now we literally have piccolo using a technique that is raising his power level by more than what roshi needed to bust the moon.

Clearly and blatantly showing he is putting more ki into this attack than a moon bust, but i aint see the moon busting explosion? Why?

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@beyonddao:

Hey. Your reasoning is as circular as it can be.

Read the fight again before I embarass you.

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@alextheboss: Do you also agree that Raditz would causally one-shot Kaguya.

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@fickfickfire:

So !

Raditz is far stronger than Goku and Piccolo at this moment.

His double beam didn't destroy the Earth and he doesn't know Ki-control as Vegeta learned it from Goku far later.

What's your excuse now ?

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@fickfickfire: I find it highly unlikely Piccolo made his power level go up 7 points all in one night right after the moon bust, but who knows, maybe that's the case. Anyways there is no evidence holding his arm with his other hand increases the attack power, maybe it does maybe it doesn't. All we know is it can obliterate the moon.

@alextheboss: Do you also agree that Raditz would causally one-shot Kaguya.

Uh, probably not since she's immortal and has regen. It might blow her body apart though.

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@alextheboss:
It's unlikely the attack is moon busting at all.

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@chatogpt: what do you mean? he literally destroyed the moon with it.

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@chatogpt: what do you mean? he literally destroyed the moon with it.

He used the same technique.

The attack power against Raditz is arguably not similar.

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#34  Edited By PlatinumChalice  Online

seems like it

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That's one of the worst superficial take I have ever read. 👍

Dragon Ball is too complicated ! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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People aren’t very bright are they?

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People aren’t very bright are they?

Confusing the stance and the power behind the technique.
That's not a smart take for sure. XD

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A dumb take debunked in 3 seconds if you have read the fight...

SMH

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#39  Edited By UchihaSenju

No, it isn't, and you're not even sure both blasts have the same power, because when he destroys the moon, he seems exhausted after doing it, but not against Raditz.

The attack against Raditz wasn't as powerful as the one that destroyed the moon. You've been proven wrong.

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#40  Edited By FickFickFire

@uchihasenju: The Official DB sites calls it "Explosive Wave" attack and he used it both against Raditz and the moon. There is no reason for Piccolo to hold back against Raditz, who later fell on knee in fear and awe.

Proof your head-canon that Piccolo was holding back against someone who is over 4 times as powerful than himself. Lmao

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#41  Edited By chatogpt

@fickfickfire:

what a dumb thread...

https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Dust_Attack

Dust Attack (ダスト アタック, Dasuto Atakku)[2] is a weaker variation of Explosive Demon Wave used by Piccolo.

OverviewThe technique is a smaller, less efficient variant of the Explosive Demon Wave.

Incredible.

No matter which featless character you wank, you are always wrong...

That's your signature whatever alt you use...

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#42  Edited By GreyTheJiren

Counterpoint, one blast blew up a moon, the other one some dirt under Raditz's feet.

How about this take?

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@greythejiren:

And Piccolo wouldn't recklessly attack with a moon-blasting attack on Earth.

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@chatogpt: "Dust Attack" is a fan-made term based on what a Ki attack did. That's like saying Naruto Rasengan wasn't a Rasengan,. because it did something less. Lmao

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Also why use a fan-made wiki. When the official/WoG states it's the Explosive Waves?

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I already dashed the other Naruto fanboy to pieces. Whose the next victim?

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#46  Edited By chatogpt

@fickfickfire:

That was the cherry on the top.

I have already demonstrated in that very thread that nothing in that Raditz fight is as powerful as you claim.

You did your best to deflect it already.

The wiki is accurate, the context is on point, you are not. That's an habit of yours.

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>Uses a Fan-Fiction name made up by fans for an attack or for video games purposes

>Ignores the official site and Piccolo's exact same stance as a typical Explosive Wave

>Thinks he won

🤡

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#48  Edited By chatogpt

@fickfickfire: Yeah and still no sources coming from you.I have posted scans from the entire fight from the manga itself.Your whole "argument" is around a fighting stance, it shows how hard you struggle with basic reading comprehension.Please keep coming at me with a-hole passive-aggressive answers, it makes you looks good when proven that wrong.Piccolo's attack is nowhere close to moon-busting, you would know if you didn't take out-of-context feats from respect threads.It requires understanding the most basic character portrayal that Piccolo is not a moron, which has been established multiple times, and will not trash the Earth with an attack more powerful than a f****** meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs.Oh well, Toriyama could reach that reasoning but you can't.

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#49  Edited By chatogpt

@fickfickfire:

Heck. There is like 20 pages to check Raditz entire history and you believe people will fall for your repetitive bullshit...

I have read DB enough times to know that Piccolo would never take the risk to blow the planet he lives in.

FFS, there is already scans of Raditz shooting mountain-destroying beams at best here.

Do you think people are blind or do you smoke crack before posting ? WTF !

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I already dashed the other Naruto fanboy to pieces. Whose the next victim?

You have destroyed nobody and nothing.
You are factually unable to understand the most basic storytelling and the associated character portrayals.
You believe that you have some expertise and show the opposite every time you wank your favourite featless characters.

A discussion is just an exchange of idea, you are not a gladiator in an arena and never will.
You are trying to overcompensate your intellectual weakness but that's smoke & mirrors.

Go touch some grass...

I you can. :)