Should the newer JJk speed feats be valid considering Gege admitted to making a mistake with the Mach 3 stuff

By combat/reactions? Don't see why not.

@masterbuster666: Ofc by combat/reaction speeds lol.

While impressive, id rather see Yuji do a few of them or scale to at the very least, as that's to make the speed scaling more clear cut, and I'm hoping Gege dosent fumble this one....

Since people want to settle with heavy inconsistencies and singular feats in other franchises such as opm, why not i guess.

@masterbuster666: yeah

Nope.

Kenjaku's feat is not light speed or anything. Check the pages that goes right after it, he used his technique before she turned into a black hole. And regardless, that would not make him lightspeed.

Hollow Purple doesn't move at light speed or anything close to that. It is never implied or stated.

Kashimo's feat has multiple issues. First, it is not real. We don't consider fictional elemental techniques comparable to real ones in all properties until proven otherwise. If this attack from Kashimo is light speed then the scaling wouldn't make sense because all other attacks are in supersonic range. This will make literally everyone relativistic because they can fight Sukuna, like Yuji for example. And this feat alone is a massive outlier.

Mach 3 it is right now.

The cope has already arrived lmao

The lowballers were using just one low showing to scale the whole verse while there are multiple feats that proves that it was an inconsistency anyway and now the author himself admits he made a mistake. There's no excuses about inconsistencies or author intent anymore. Sukuna has light speed reaction fair and square and characters like Toji are already lightning timer at least. Which also makes ftl purple a possibility. It blitzed toji and sukuna also couldn't dodge it and hollow purple.

Yuki's black hole of course has the properties of an actual blackhole. It's made explicitly clear in the manga

Mach 5 at best it is.

@gaoron: why 5

For once he has a point. Time to get into the fallout shelter.

^ Haha very funny snitchofsnitches

You could just not reply at all. This is worthless.

Do you read JJK on outlier wiki or what? Why do you blatantly lie that there's just ONE low showing that we abuse to DOWNPLAY the verse? It's YOU who abuses a single statement to get lightspeed, not even a clear uncontentious speed feat, just a statement and even that doesn't say anything about speed, it just mentions the radiation. You just went ahead and applied the speed part to it.

Toji isn't a lightning timer. First of all, his feat is filler and the anime overall has issues. It takes too many liberties with characters abilities. An outrageous example is how Mahoraga was able to regenerate from complete destruction. Lol, that's not how reversed cursed technique works, you don't regen from that type of damage. Now, about Toji again, Nue's electricity isn't lightning speed. If it is lightning speed then all electricity attacks for all verses would be considered lightning speed, which we don't.

Yuki's black hole doesn't give Kenjaku lightspeed, smh.

If Gege thinks he made a mistake then he will correct it later. For now, you are the one who is coping. FFs Kashimo's attack wasn't even described to be LS, you just applied it there because you thought his magical radiation has exact same properties as real life radiation. If it was actually lightspeed Gege would mention that.

If you don't see the issue here then I don't even want to argue with you personally.

Let the tears fall down like rain 🎶

Reacting to a black hole isn’t LS feat actually it’s relativistic just thought I’d put that out there

Makes sense. He got blitzed by yuta in close range and yuta shouldn't be faster than sukuna

When did Gege say he made a mistake?

if anything he just agreed that he nerfed the speed down to mach speeds which hurts your case.

@ruined_king: read what the first scan says Gege is acknowledging the mistake he made and that him showing such speed feats later shouldn’t be considered invalid

It dosent hurt my case as better speed feats than the Mach fiasco are shown

you are using one low showing to lowball the verse and now gege says it was a mistake. Stop the cap lmao

Read the manga again, there are only low showings in terms of speed.

i am taking a lightspeed statement for what it is - a light speed statement. YOU know why? Cause I am not on copium like YOU.

There wasn't a single lightspeed statement. Also, will you start talking normally? You are acting silly.

not JUST a statement. The Narrator 's comment. Here the narrator being WOG and not a character in the series.

Not a lightspeed feat or statement.

The number is given to you, and it's the speed of EM waves. You want gege to write down numerical values everytime he has to tell how fast a character is moving ? Tell me when has Toriyama said Goku moves faster than 299 792 458m/s. By your logic no fictional character can ever be scaled 🤣. Or this rule only apply in JJk coz u too salty to accept?

You are making shit up and pretending as if it was stated in the manga. Also, again, do you read JJK on battleboarding sites? We haven't been given a number. Toriyama doesn't have to say it, we have at least relativistic+ feats for DB characters in DBZ and if I don't forget feats that approach even SOL. And DBS has many FTL feats itself.

Don't put words in my mouth and don't say shit like "by your logic". From what I see you don't understand what that means.

Anime is canon unlike your cope. Mahoraga's regen is just that good. What are these excuses lol 'Character X uses High level regen but this on screen feat is not true because my salty ass feels like RCT shouldn't be this good 🤡' elite reasoning. Gojo was doing the same btw against sukuna.

How old are you again? You seem to be talking like a teenage troll at this point.

Anime is not canon, I thought at least that was common knowledge. You know that RTC needs a brain to function, right? If there's nothing that channels it then it doesn't work. Again with false statements, Gojo was never deleted from existence with cleave lol. He received damage on his skin. Read the manga properly.

I am not going to bother to read everything else. You act like a stupid common troll, you should be treated as such. I don't think I can fall that low so I am going to ignore you. If someone takes what you say seriously, then those people can't be taken seriously by extension.

I don't really get it, where is Gege saying he made a mistake with the Mach stuff, if anything that SBS statement sounds the exact opposite to a casual observer?

Do black holes have a set light-speed+ movement speed now or something?

What shirso said. It doesn't look like he's admitting that he made a mistake.

Also reacting to getting pulled into a black hole doesn't make you FTL or LS nor does it say anything about purple being LS/FTL just that it has imaginary mass

@shirso: he says he was mental for doing the Mach 3 stuff that directly implies it was a mistake the new jjk speed feats should be proof of that

Yuuki's large house sized black hole didn't absorb the light in its expanse and has only destroyed a city block apparently. Fiction have their own thing, fodder faulty black holes, slow radiation waves.

Yes. Sukuna oneshot Naruto now

@hentekorin: nardo is ftl so no

@platinumchalice: there you have it then. Such a clear thing when it comes to this verse, don't know why people make this more than it needs to be.

No

Unreal cap.

It wasn't created by 'magic' . It's literally stated the blackhole is produced by raising the mass to infinite. And the reason it didn't swallowed the earth is because of tengen's barrier. Don't talk nonsense about things you don't know anything about.

BUMPEH

@sixpathsofcapra: that's fine, if the feats actually represented what infinite mass/energy was lmao. Terrible. That thing would've engulfed the entire galaxy in no time if that was the case. Feats above statements. The black hole did jack shit bar being a really dense piece of whatever the fuck. No speed to gained from that.

Forgot to say that if it was truly infinite in mass, it would literally cover everything in size lol, OR it wouldn't be sucking in anything anymore, since it would have nothing left to suck, since it would've had infinite mass already lol.

"Raising mass to infinite" man, wtf is this shit. Holy fuck.

JJK bros aren't helping their case with this infinite speed wank.

Anyway I'm willing to accept some characters scale well above mach speed maybe even lightning speed with kamuotke, but anything higher is laughable wank

@supreme101: Not until he provide some feat that contradict the Mach 3 one.

Not even that.

Eletricity speed - not even real lightning - is considered unavoidable in Jujutsu.

Wouldn't that be the BH Em Waves and purple

Weeb IQ at work in this thread. Only like 2 people actually know what they're talking about lol. Not reading manga but from what the Anime has shown the characters are still Mach 1 -10 at best.

We'd have to see someone blitz Toji and Maki, and as far as I can tell, only attacks can do that, like Hollow Purple... which was so fast that the only thing Sukuna could do to save himself was put his hands up, therefore making them far faster than Sukuna. And since Gojo and Sukuna are the two fastest in the verse, everybody else is stuck far below them, and therefore, far below Hollow Purple, for example. Mach 3 for the win boys.

jjk is infinite speed

@lucascosta: where is it considered unavoidable? Please let it be kashimo you’re talking about lmao

So tired of people trying to twist what gege said into some kind of retcon.

Before this he had spent several volume pages explaining how he was embarrassed because his engineering friend/editor told him he misunderstood the math behind gojo’s infinite.

The statement is about him shying away from an overly complicated explanation with anything and sticking to something easy to understand like Mach speeds.

When gege makes a mistake or wants to clarify him just does in the volume release. This is just lazy cope.

Top tiers who Pre Demon Maki can't hold a candle to shouldn't be affected by the Mac 3 stuff, Especially when the gap between the characters are reiterated Multiple times over in the story

Sukuna's feats are valid

Kenjaku's feats are valid (Maki scales their entire group under him)

Kashimo's feats are valid (one of the strongest in the verse as deemed by Sukuna who was impressed by him a little)

OP, can you elaborate? I feel like I have no idea what you're talking about. Not like crazy good speed feats are suddenly rampant enough to warrant huge changes in the first place, but maybe an upgrade could be in place, sure.

Gojo straight up says if all that was there to hitting a black flash was the 0.000001 reaction time to input physical strike and cursed energy he'd be hitting it literally every time. Meaning his speed is far far above that because the action required to do that is literally nothing to him. So capping him at mach 3-5 ish is laughable.

Combine this with the fact the likes of hakari has on panel reacted to lightning multiple times in different way yet people still downplay jjk because of "statements" like every future feat that happens is irrelevant and we MUST stick to things that happened in the past.

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